1                    CITY OF JACKSONVILLE

 

       2                    LAND USE AND ZONING

 

       3                         COMMITTEE

 

       4

 

       5

 

       6             Proceedings held on Tuesday, August 17,

 

       7   2010, commencing at 5:00 p.m., City Hall, Council

 

       8   Chambers, 1st Floor, Jacksonville, Florida, before

 

       9   Diane M. Tropia, a Notary Public in and for the State

 

      10   of Florida at Large.

 

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      12   PRESENT:

 

      13        JOHN CRESCIMBENI, Chair.

                RAY HOLT, Vice Chair.

      14        WILLIAM BISHOP, Committee Member.

                DON REDMAN, Committee Member.

      15        STEPHEN JOOST, Committee Member.

                REGGIE BROWN, Committee Member.

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      17   ALSO PRESENT:

 

      18        JOHN CROFTS, Deputy Director, Planning Dept.

                SEAN KELLY, Chief, Current Planning.

      19        KEN AVERY, Planning and Development Dept.

                DYLAN REINGOLD, Office of General Counsel.

      20        RICK CAMPBELL, Research Assistant.

                MERRIANE LAHMEUR, Legislative Assistant.

      21        SHARONDA DAVIS, Legislative Assistant.

 

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       1                   P R O C E E D I N G S

 

       2   August 17, 2010                         5:00 p.m.

 

       3                         -  -  -

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Good evening, everyone.

 

       5             We're going to call the August 17th

 

       6        Land Use and Zoning Committee to order.

 

       7             And to begin with, we'll go around the dais

 

       8        and have everyone introduce themselves, starting

 

       9        with Mr. Crofts, who is not in his seat, so,

 

      10        Mr. Kelly, if you will pick up the slack there.

 

      11             MR. KELLY:  Sean Kelly, Planning and

 

      12        Development.

 

      13             MR. AVERY:  Ken Avery, Planning and

 

      14        Development.

 

      15             MR. REINGOLD:  Dylan Reingold with the

 

      16        Office of General Counsel.

 

      17             MR. JOOST:  Stephen Joost, City Council.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  I'm John Crescimbeni, the

 

      19        chairman.

 

      20             MR. BISHOP:  Bill Bishop, District 2.

 

      21             MR. REDMAN:  Don Redman, District 4.

 

      22             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Mr. Avery, if you

 

      23        will switch signs with the seat next to you on

 

      24        the left or switch seats, we'll get you

 

      25        straightened out there.

 

 

 

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       1             Mr. Reingold, would you like to begin with

 

       2        the LUZ statement?  I know you look forward to

 

       3        that, so -- your time is here.

 

       4             MR. REINGOLD:  I would be delighted to,

 

       5        sir.

 

       6             MR. REINGOLD:  Anybody who would like to

 

       7        address the committee must fill out a yellow

 

       8        speaker's card in its entirety.  The yellow

 

       9        speakers' cards are located on the desk up

 

      10        front, near the podium.  Once completed, please

 

      11        return the speaker's card to the basket on the

 

      12        front desk.

 

      13             Any person who lobbies the City for

 

      14        compensation is considered a lobbyist and is

 

      15        therefore required to register their lobbying

 

      16        activity with the City Council secretary.  If

 

      17        you are a lobbyist and have not registered with

 

      18        the City Council secretary, you will not be

 

      19        permitted to address the committee.

 

      20             Because a verbatim transcript of this

 

      21        meeting will be prepared by a court reporter, it

 

      22        is important that you speak clearly into the

 

      23        microphone when you address the committee.  It's

 

      24        also important that only one person speak at a

 

      25        time.

 

 

 

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       1             Any tangible material submitted with a

 

       2        speaker's presentation, such as documents,

 

       3        photographs, plans, drawings, et cetera, shall

 

       4        become a permanent part of the public record and

 

       5        will be retained by this committee.

 

       6             As a courtesy, please switch any cell

 

       7        phones, pagers, or audible devices to a silent

 

       8        mode.

 

       9             Additionally, there shall be no public

 

      10        display of support or opposition, so please

 

      11        refrain from applause or speaking out of turn.

 

      12             Items are generally addressed in the order

 

      13        in which they are listed on the agenda.  Copies

 

      14        of the agenda are located on the desk up front,

 

      15        near the podium.

 

      16             On occasion, items may be heard out of

 

      17        order for the sake of efficiency or to

 

      18        accommodate scheduling conflicts.

 

      19             Unless there is a formal hearing on a

 

      20        particular item, each member of the public is

 

      21        limited to a single three-minute presentation.

 

      22        Therefore, presentations should be focused,

 

      23        concise, and address only the item pending

 

      24        before the committee.

 

      25             Prior to addressing the committee, please

 

 

 

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       1        state your name and address for the court

 

       2        reporter.

 

       3             Decisions on rezonings, including PUDs,

 

       4        waivers of road frontage, sign waivers, and

 

       5        appeals, are all considered quasi-judicial in

 

       6        nature and certain protocals will be followed

 

       7        for these proceedings.

 

       8             First, each council member must disclose on

 

       9        the record any ex-parte communications they have

 

      10        had with any members of the public prior to the

 

      11        hearing on each applicable item.  This includes

 

      12        a brief statement of when the communication took

 

      13        place, who the communication was with, and what

 

      14        the subject matter of the communication was

 

      15        about.

 

      16             Second, the normal format is to allow the

 

      17        applicant or agent thereof to make their

 

      18        presentation first, followed by members of the

 

      19        public who wish to speak in support of the item,

 

      20        then members of the public who are in opposition

 

      21        will be allowed to speak.

 

      22             After all the public comments have been

 

      23        received, the applicant will have a brief

 

      24        opportunity to wrap up or present a brief

 

      25        rebuttal.  The wrap-up or rebuttal shall be

 

 

 

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       1        limited to the issues brought up by the

 

       2        speakers.

 

       3             In some instances, the Chair may permit a

 

       4        concise surrebuttal or response to the

 

       5        applicant's rebuttal, which will be followed by

 

       6        a brief final response by the applicant.

 

       7             Finally, all quasi-judicial decisions must

 

       8        be based on substantial competent evidence,

 

       9        which means that the committee's decision must

 

      10        be supported by fact-based testimony or expert

 

      11        testimony and not generalized concerns or

 

      12        opinions.

 

      13             And I would also finally like the record to

 

      14        reflect that we have had Councilmember Holt and

 

      15        Councilmember Brown join our committee.

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Reingold.

 

      17             And we also have a former council member in

 

      18        the audience.  Councilmember Suzanne Jenkins is

 

      19        with us tonight.

 

      20             Thank you for being here.

 

      21             All right.  We're going to take a couple of

 

      22        items out of order to begin with, so if I could

 

      23        get the committee to turn to page 11, we have a

 

      24        presentation from Lisa Ransom of the Planning

 

      25        Department on items 37 and 38, vision plans for

 

 

 

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       1        the Urban Core and the Southeast Planning

 

       2        District respectively.

 

       3             Ms. Ransom, if you would like to come up.

 

       4             (Ms. Ransom approaches the podium.)

 

       5             THE CHAIRMAN:  And if you have any

 

       6        questions, if you will just hold those to the

 

       7        conclusion of her presentation -- it should last

 

       8        about ten minutes -- and then we will take these

 

       9        two items up out of order.

 

      10             Ms. Ransom.

 

      11             MS. RANSOM:  Thank you, Mr. Chairman,

 

      12        members of the LUZ, staff, and the public.

 

      13             My name is Lisa Ransom.  I'm the project

 

      14        manager for the vision plan ordinances 2010-614

 

      15        and -615.  Today I'll be presenting both of the

 

      16        vision plans for the Southeast District and the

 

      17        Urban Core District, but before I do that, I

 

      18        would appreciate just a few moments to introduce

 

      19        those staff members and members of the public

 

      20        that participated in this two- to

 

      21        three-year-long process.

 

      22             We have in the audience, I believe,

 

      23        Frank Morgan, the Chair of the Southeast

 

      24        District Vision Plan.

 

      25             Can he please stand?

 

 

 

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       1             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  (Complies.)

 

       2             MS. RANSOM:  And if there are any other

 

       3        Southeast Steering Committee members, would you

 

       4        also please stand --

 

       5             AUDIENCE MEMBERS:  (Comply.)

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  -- to acknowledge you?

 

       7             I just want to acknowledge them and thank

 

       8        them for their two years of hard work during

 

       9        this process.

 

      10             We also have in the audience Paul Tutwiler,

 

      11        the Chair of the Urban Core Vision Plan.  You

 

      12        probably already know Mr. Tutwiler.  He's very

 

      13        prominent in the community and works very hard.

 

      14             And also -- do we have any of our other

 

      15        District 1 vision plan -- we have Cherry Shaw,

 

      16        who was a member of our steering committee as

 

      17        well.

 

      18             These are the true heroes of this process.

 

      19        We were charged with making this process --

 

      20        maximum public participation.  We had many weeks

 

      21        of meetings, and I'll go over that in a little

 

      22        bit more detail, but I also wanted to

 

      23        acknowledge our staff members present.

 

      24             Adrianne Lathrop is not here presently, but

 

      25        she's been involved with the Urban Core.  She

 

 

 

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       1        facilitated those meetings.

 

       2             And Amy Holliman is our Greater Arlington

 

       3        staff member, and we'll be bringing that plan to

 

       4        you in a few weeks.

 

       5             So I'd like to thank all of the staff

 

       6        members and our steering committee members for

 

       7        their participation.  Without them, we would not

 

       8        have these two plans before you.

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  Ms. Ransom, let me interrupt

 

      10        for just a second and also extend the

 

      11        appreciation of the committee for those citizens

 

      12        that participated on these programs.  Your

 

      13        participation was very valuable and your time

 

      14        commitment was greatly appreciated.

 

      15             I know that I had some interaction with the

 

      16        Arlington Town Center for the District 2

 

      17        Town Center Vision Plan, and it was quite long

 

      18        and drawn out, so I appreciate the efforts.

 

      19             We don't have a public hearing scheduled on

 

      20        these two items tonight, again, items 37 and 38;

 

      21        however, if anyone wishes to take a -- I'm going

 

      22        to restrict the comments to -- I'm going to ask

 

      23        you to be brief, but if you do want to address

 

      24        the committee, just fill out one of these yellow

 

      25        speakers' cards (indicating) and just drop it in

 

 

 

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       1        the basket prior to Ms. Ransom's -- the

 

       2        conclusion of her presentation.

 

       3             Thank you, Ms. Ransom.  If you will

 

       4        continue.

 

       5             MS. RANSOM:  Thank you.

 

       6             I will be brief.

 

       7             As you already know, we have three plans

 

       8        that we've done for Duval County.  We have our

 

       9        North, Northwest, and Southwest that we

 

      10        completed around 2003.  These three, the

 

      11        Urban Core, Southeast, and Arlington, will

 

      12        complete the county.

 

      13             Shaping the vision for the city's

 

      14        development future was a goal of the mayor and

 

      15        it was one of the ten principles for managing

 

      16        Jacksonville's growth as recommended in the 2005

 

      17        Mayor's growth task force committee.

 

      18             As I mentioned, we had public

 

      19        participation, starting from 2007.  We had a bus

 

      20        tour of all three districts, we met with council

 

      21        members, CPAC chairs.

 

      22             In February of 2008, we held community

 

      23        forums to discuss the project and we had a

 

      24        consultant that met with various stakeholders.

 

      25             We began this visioning process for each of

 

 

 

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       1        the districts with four community charettes in

 

       2        each of the districts that were held on both

 

       3        weekdays and Saturdays.  We also took all of

 

       4        this information gathered from the charettes and

 

       5        used it to create the building blocks for each

 

       6        of these vision plans, which we call the five

 

       7        guiding principles.

 

       8             We had the community charettes, as I

 

       9        mentioned, in various parts of the community.

 

      10        We have photographs from each one of those

 

      11        districts.  We kept our records to -- just to

 

      12        show that we did go out into the community as

 

      13        much as possible.  We took their ideas and they

 

      14        developed into diagrams that illustrated the

 

      15        vision and the ideas that would move forward to

 

      16        create sketches that actually visualize the

 

      17        ideas that came out of the charettes.

 

      18             We have ideas for more retail, more public

 

      19        access to the riverfront, and different

 

      20        varieties of transit.  They're all building

 

      21        blocks for the plans.

 

      22             The purpose of the plans is to determine

 

      23        how we should grow in the future.  These

 

      24        district plans are supposed to be plans at a

 

      25        30,000-foot level.  They're not neighborhood

 

 

 

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       1        plans; they're districtwide plans.  They're

 

       2        meant to be guiding documents for more specific

 

       3        future planning efforts and capital improvements

 

       4        throughout the districts.  They're meant to

 

       5        shape the new comprehensive plan, the 2030 plan,

 

       6        and help to manage growth for years to come.

 

       7             We also had existing conditions, a lot of

 

       8        data that you will not see in these plans, but

 

       9        those existing condition reports are available

 

      10        online if you care to read them.

 

      11             The five guiding principles are a framework

 

      12        for directing growth toward commercial corridors

 

      13        and away from existing neighborhoods with an aim

 

      14        towards preserving the existing character and

 

      15        scale of neighborhoods.

 

      16             And now I'll begin with the five guiding

 

      17        principles for the Urban Core.

 

      18             Capitalize on the Urban Core's uniqueness.

 

      19        As you can see, we have major economic drivers

 

      20        in the Urban Core.  Many of them are not even

 

      21        shown on this slide.  Unfortunately, the

 

      22        Urban Core has lost population since 1990.

 

      23        However, the Urban Core is still the most dense,

 

      24        with eight people per acre.

 

      25             The plan for the Urban Core shows that

 

 

 

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       1        there's ample room for growth, however, and the

 

       2        vision plan for the Urban Core also acknowledges

 

       3        all the preceding studies that have been done.

 

       4        We incorporated all the information and all the

 

       5        recommendations from the neighborhood studies

 

       6        and brought them into the vision for the entire

 

       7        district.

 

       8             The Urban Core's uniqueness also underlines

 

       9        the historic resources.  The areas that you see

 

      10        outlined in blue are all areas that have been

 

      11        surveyed -- they're all buildings that have been

 

      12        surveyed for historic character, for potential

 

      13        for historic designation, and also for

 

      14        conservation districts.

 

      15             If we decide to use these methods for

 

      16        preserving neighborhoods, we would also preserve

 

      17        the distinctive character that each of these

 

      18        neighborhoods has.  You can see in the middle,

 

      19        the red is already the Springfield neighborhood

 

      20        that already is designated for historic

 

      21        character.  We hope to revitalize some of these

 

      22        surrounding neighborhoods within the entire

 

      23        Urban Core.

 

      24             And this slide shows the warehouse

 

      25        district.  It's a part of the neighborhoods

 

 

 

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       1        north of downtown, and we would like to

 

       2        capitalize on the uniqueness and bring

 

       3        excitement, activity, and just more people into

 

       4        the Urban Core.  That's part of what the

 

       5        neighbors wanted.

 

       6             The next principle, number two, is promote

 

       7        mixed use, mixed income, redevelopment, and

 

       8        infill.  Here you'll see a rendering of the

 

       9        potential reuse of the Ford plant.  It's

 

      10        grandiose, it's large, it's exciting, it uses

 

      11        commercial, it uses retail, and it uses the

 

      12        existing plant.  On the bottom right, you'll see

 

      13        a photograph of what's there now and the drawing

 

      14        shows what it could possibly be.

 

      15             It's also an existing brownfields site.

 

      16        One of the ideas that came out of the charettes

 

      17        was to reuse large tracts of vacant land, for

 

      18        instance, Commodore Point.

 

      19             Here you see the before and after.  They're

 

      20        ideas, but it's visioning.  That's why we're

 

      21        here.  So we're promoting more mixed use,

 

      22        particularly of the brownfields sites within and

 

      23        throughout the Urban Core district.

 

      24             Providing a variety of transportation

 

      25        choices is principle three.  Here you see a map

 

 

 

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       1        of transit opportunities that will go throughout

 

       2        the downtown, throughout the Urban Core, and

 

       3        bring the surrounding neighborhoods into the

 

       4        downtown.  That was one of the things that they

 

       5        talked about, connecting surrounding

 

       6        neighborhoods into the downtown and giving a

 

       7        variety of transportation, and making

 

       8        neighborhoods more walkable is also a part of

 

       9        the character that they want to bring about.

 

      10        They want to make neighborhoods safe, they want

 

      11        to make neighborhoods walkable.  That was one of

 

      12        the other things.  Connecting the neighborhoods

 

      13        downtown they felt would make them safer and

 

      14        make them more walkable.

 

      15             Principal four is to provide for economic

 

      16        growth.  This speaks for itself, but we also

 

      17        wanted to identify that the plan recognizes and

 

      18        supports JEDC as the primary resource for

 

      19        economic development within the city.  This

 

      20        principle reinforces that for the Urban Core.

 

      21        As you can see, we also have photographs of

 

      22        major drivers.

 

      23             And, finally, principle five is to expand,

 

      24        protect, and enhance open space.  We have a

 

      25        wonderful natural resource throughout the

 

 

 

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       1        county, throughout the city, our river, and we

 

       2        want to make it more walkable, more accessible,

 

       3        and to enhance it so that more people can enjoy

 

       4        it.

 

       5             And, finally, for the Urban Core, they see

 

       6        a central park theme as one of the gateways into

 

       7        the Urban Core district.  This is a potential

 

       8        reuse, expansion, and it works with our

 

       9        Parks Department in revitalizing the

 

      10        Hogan's Creek park system that we already have,

 

      11        taking what's already there and just expanding

 

      12        upon that.

 

      13             This is the Urban Core Vision Plan.  If you

 

      14        have any questions -- or if you'd like me to

 

      15        pause here or I can continue to the Southeast.

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  Any questions from the

 

      17        committee on the Urban Core plan?

 

      18             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      19             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Seeing none,

 

      20        Ms. Ransom, if you will move on to the

 

      21        Southeast.

 

      22             MS. RANSOM:  Okay.  The Southeast is a

 

      23        large area with many different neighborhoods.

 

      24        This map here shows potential redevelopment for

 

      25        the entire district.  It will be talked about

 

 

 

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       1        more thoroughly throughout the vision plan, but

 

       2        the Southeast district itself is approximately

 

       3        90,000 acres or 140 square miles.  It can be

 

       4        compared to the size of the city of

 

       5        Philadelphia.

 

       6             One of the things that the first principle

 

       7        talks about, capitalizing on the Southeast's

 

       8        uniqueness, is that there are several different

 

       9        neighborhoods that are unique to the Southeast.

 

      10        We have urban neighborhoods, we have suburban

 

      11        neighborhoods.  So there are a variety of

 

      12        neighborhoods, but each one of them, we need to

 

      13        capture and protect those characteristics which

 

      14        makes that neighborhood distinctive, those

 

      15        features that make it unique and to its own.  So

 

      16        we have a lot of work to do to encourage

 

      17        development, but yet to utilize those unique

 

      18        characteristics for each neighborhood, and here

 

      19        are just some examples.

 

      20             But each neighborhood would like to

 

      21        encourage their sense of place.  That was one of

 

      22        the major things that we discussed in the

 

      23        Southeast.

 

      24             We also have riverfront access, and we

 

      25        would like to expand upon public access to the

 

 

 

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       1        river within the Southeast.

 

       2             Principle two is very similar to the

 

       3        Urban Core's, and that's promote mixed use,

 

       4        mixed income, redevelopment of infill.  Here you

 

       5        see a variety of commercial opportunities, mixed

 

       6        use, mixed income, and utilizing existing

 

       7        shopping centers within the Southeast that can

 

       8        be expanded and could be built upon.  So that's

 

       9        development that can be expanded upon.

 

      10             I think I missed a slide.

 

      11             This is the potential redevelopment of

 

      12        Philips Highway.  As you can see, it's wide

 

      13        sidewalks, crosswalks, bikeways, and

 

      14        landscaping.  It makes it more walkable, more

 

      15        pleasant to the pedestrian, as well as expands

 

      16        upon existing commercial and infill.

 

      17             Our third principle is connecting

 

      18        transportation choices and enhancing mobility.

 

      19        One of the things we talked about in the

 

      20        Southeast was to have more east-west

 

      21        connectivity.  But if you notice on the left of

 

      22        the map, you see the pink line.  That's a water

 

      23        taxi.  That came out in all three of the vision

 

      24        plans, the Urban Core, Southeast, and Greater

 

      25        Arlington/Beaches talks about adding water

 

 

 

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       1        taxis.  So everyone is talking about and wants

 

       2        to see a greater variety of transportation

 

       3        opportunities within the city.

 

       4             Principle four, again, is provide for

 

       5        economic growth.  We need to expand upon what's

 

       6        there, we need to improve upon it, we need to

 

       7        create some connectivity and to allow for

 

       8        development, but also that enhances the existing

 

       9        neighborhoods.  I think we're hearing that more

 

      10        and more, but we're also seeing it now as a

 

      11        potential redevelopment opportunity within the

 

      12        Southeast as well.

 

      13             And principle four -- principle five, I'm

 

      14        sorry, is providing for conservation, parks, and

 

      15        open space.  Again, the neighbors, the community

 

      16        is saying we need to provide for a conservation

 

      17        of our open space, we need to improve on our

 

      18        parks, and we need to make it more accessible to

 

      19        the water.

 

      20             Here, again, is another slide that shows

 

      21        potential redevelopment of existing park space

 

      22        and provide for new park space.

 

      23             And, finally, our -- again, our slide on

 

      24        Philips Highway shows improved night life.  Our

 

      25        Southeast district talked about enhancing

 

 

 

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       1        community participation, enhancing retail, not

 

       2        just for one type of constituent.  It would have

 

       3        to be for family-friendly, it would have to be

 

       4        for young people, but just basically bringing

 

       5        more people into more commercial centers and to

 

       6        allow for mixed use and mixed opportunity.

 

       7             These are the Urban Core and Southeast

 

       8        plans.  If you have any questions, I'll stand by

 

       9        for those, but thank you very much for your

 

      10        attention.

 

      11             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Ms. Ransom.

 

      12             Any questions for Ms. Ransom on the

 

      13        Southeast Vision Plan?

 

      14             MR. BISHOP:  (Indicating.)

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Bishop.

 

      16             MR. BISHOP:  Ms. Ransom, these are some

 

      17        pretty good products here, it looks to me, but I

 

      18        have one quick question, mainly because we're

 

      19        going to be getting Arlington/Beaches here

 

      20        pretty soon and the Southeast ties into the

 

      21        southern end of it along Beach Boulevard.

 

      22             I'm just curious.  What kind of

 

      23        coordination, if any, is there between the

 

      24        vision plans where they hit each other?

 

      25             MS. RANSOM:  Well, we have the same

 

 

 

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       1        consultant, so we -- and we have the same team,

 

       2        so we're looking at the recommendations for the

 

       3        transportation using our Transportation

 

       4        Department.  We're using the same departments to

 

       5        review all the documents, so we're making sure

 

       6        that the recommendations don't conflict with

 

       7        each other.

 

       8             MR. BISHOP:  Okay.  So was there any cases

 

       9        where you would get conflicting desires on one

 

      10        side of a line versus the other along a major

 

      11        corridor like that?  And, if so, how did you

 

      12        resolve that?

 

      13             MS. RANSOM:  The only potential conflict

 

      14        was in the transit issue.  Arlington still

 

      15        has -- has a different opinion on what level of

 

      16        transportation should be used on which roads,

 

      17        but we're deferring to Transportation and JTA

 

      18        for that, so -- and I don't -- I don't have a

 

      19        copy of it in front of me, I don't have it

 

      20        formalized, but there was some discussion on

 

      21        whether or not commuter rail versus just JTA,

 

      22        moving forward with that.

 

      23             MR. BISHOP:  I guess we'll take that up

 

      24        when we deal with Arlington specifically.

 

      25             MS. RANSOM:  Yeah, but we're going to --

 

 

 

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       1        we're going to defer to our transportation and

 

       2        our mobility plan.  So we took everything and we

 

       3        went back to the mobility plan.

 

       4             MR. BISHOP:  I didn't mean to turn this

 

       5        into a discussion about Arlington/Beaches, which

 

       6        we'll get to when we -- when that one comes up,

 

       7        because I have some concerns about your answer

 

       8        that you gave me right now with respect to that

 

       9        in the Arlington plan.  My question is really

 

      10        centered on what you did with -- if there were

 

      11        any conflicts between them, and you're basically

 

      12        saying there weren't any or you resolved them

 

      13        internally with the consultant?

 

      14             MS. RANSOM:  Right.

 

      15             Yeah, and there really weren't any specific

 

      16        conflicts because of the 30,000-foot-level

 

      17        plan.

 

      18             I think, as you can see with Urban Core and

 

      19        Southeast, without even knowing that the five

 

      20        guiding principles were the same until I

 

      21        actually put the presentation together, they

 

      22        were -- the subprinciples start to change, but

 

      23        the guiding principles have remained the same

 

      24        since we started, but there's really been no

 

      25        conflicts.  You know, people want parks.  We're

 

 

 

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       1        deferring to the Parks Department to plan.

 

       2        Where people want walkability, the -- the

 

       3        principles are so broad, it doesn't get down to

 

       4        a specific what should happen on this street or

 

       5        what should happen on that street, so there's

 

       6        really no conflict in those areas.

 

       7             And since I've been to almost, not all the

 

       8        meetings, but I've been to many of the meetings

 

       9        and looked at all of the plans, I haven't seen

 

      10        any conflicts, but -- but the ideas of where

 

      11        transportation should go has come up and it's

 

      12        been different for each -- it's been different

 

      13        for each of the steering committees.  Each

 

      14        steering committee has had different ideas, but

 

      15        they've all recognized that the mobility plan is

 

      16        there and it's in place and we're using that as

 

      17        a guideline.

 

      18             MR. BISHOP:  Okay.  Thank you.

 

      19             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Bishop.

 

      20             Mr. Redman has a question.

 

      21             MR. REDMAN:  No question.  I just wanted to

 

      22        thank each of those that participated in the --

 

      23        I attended meetings in each of these areas from

 

      24        time to time and there's a lot of interactive

 

      25        work going on and a lot of participation, so I

 

 

 

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       1        just want to thank each of you for the hard work

 

       2        that you put into this.

 

       3             MS. RANSOM:  Thank you.

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Redman.

 

       5             Seeing no other speakers -- again, we have

 

       6        no public hearings that were scheduled this

 

       7        evening for 37 and 38, but I will -- we do have

 

       8        some speaker cards, so we will take up item 37

 

       9        first.  I have one speaker card.

 

      10             Mr. Tutwiler, if you would like to come

 

      11        forward.

 

      12             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  And, again, if -- we

 

      14        normally allow three minutes, but if you could

 

      15        be brief, that would be appreciated.

 

      16             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Paul Tutwiler, 3117

 

      17        North Liberty Street.

 

      18             I stand in support of the Urban Core Vision

 

      19        Plan.  We took about two years to meet.  We met

 

      20        regularly, met in various parts of the

 

      21        district.

 

      22             Every great city has a great downtown and

 

      23        the surrounding communities.  It's certainly an

 

      24        early impression for visitors.  We spent a lot

 

      25        of time with that impression to talk about how

 

 

 

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       1        we could work together and to improve that, and

 

       2        I think the staff did a dynamic job of guiding

 

       3        the process.  I just wanted to just say that I

 

       4        really appreciate it and I was very fortunate to

 

       5        be a part of a great group.

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Tutwiler.

 

       7             Any questions from the committee?

 

       8             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, sir, for your

 

      10        contributions.

 

      11             All right.  I have no other speaker cards

 

      12        for item 37, 2010-614.

 

      13             Is there a motion?

 

      14             MR. HOLT:  Move the bill.

 

      15             MR. BISHOP:  Second.

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion and a second on the

 

      17        bill.

 

      18             Any discussion?

 

      19             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, open the ballot

 

      21        vote.

 

      22             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      23             MR. CRESCIMBENI:  (Votes yea.)

 

      24             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      25             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

 

 

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       1             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       2             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

       3             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       4             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

       5             THE CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Reingold.

 

       6             MR. REINGOLD:  To the Chair, just for the

 

       7        assistance of our court reporter, do you recall

 

       8        who made the motion and second?

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  I'm sorry it was Mr. Holt

 

      10        who made the motion and second by Mr. Bishop.

 

      11             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nay.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Thank you.

 

      13             And on item 38, 2010-615, again, no

 

      14        scheduled public hearing, but I do have four

 

      15        speaker cards, so if you will be brief in your

 

      16        comments.

 

      17             The first speaker is Frank Morgan.

 

      18             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

      19             THE CHAIRMAN:  State your name and address

 

      20        for the record, Mr. Morgan.

 

      21             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes.  My name is Frank

 

      22        Morgan.  I live at 7968 Los Robles Court,

 

      23        Jacksonville, 32256.

 

      24             The Southeast or District 3 vision plan is

 

      25        the result of hundreds of hours of research and

 

 

 

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       1        deliberation over a period of 18 months by a

 

       2        highly diverse committee of volunteer residents

 

       3        of the district.  The steering committee

 

       4        included neighborhood leaders, as well as

 

       5        business people, real estate developers, and

 

       6        environmentalists.

 

       7             I'll skip over a lot of that that would

 

       8        have repeated what Lisa has told you, but as

 

       9        Chair of the vision plan steering committee, I'd

 

      10        like to thank each and every member who gave

 

      11        tirelessly of their time and efforts and ask you

 

      12        to honor them by supporting the adoption of

 

      13        their vision plan for this district.

 

      14             Thank you.

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Morgan.

 

      16             Any questions for Mr. Morgan?

 

      17             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  Our next speaker is

 

      19        Janet Stanko, followed by Ms. Jenkins.

 

      20             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Ms. Stanko.

 

      22             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Hi.

 

      23             My name is Janet Stanko.  I live at 13953

 

      24        Athens Drive in Jacksonville.

 

      25             I have participated on the Southeast vision

 

 

 

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       1        steering committee and also am a campaign

 

       2        organizer for Amendment 4, and I see a huge

 

       3        connection between the vision plan, the

 

       4        resulting comp plan, and passage of Amendment 4

 

       5        in November.

 

       6             I feel privileged to have participated in

 

       7        this process and thank Lisa Ransom, along with

 

       8        the other staff members, for their leadership in

 

       9        this process, and I'm here to support the vision

 

      10        plan and the resulting comprehensive land use

 

      11        plan.

 

      12             Our comp plan is a blueprint for how land

 

      13        will be used now and going into the future and

 

      14        it balances the needs of all the stakeholders in

 

      15        the community, and I know you're all very

 

      16        familiar with the huge undertaking and the huge

 

      17        balancing act and coordination that it

 

      18        represents.  The Southeast Vision Plan is just

 

      19        the beginning of that process, and I look

 

      20        forward to seeing the comp plan.

 

      21             I and others on the Southeast Vision

 

      22        Committee fervently hope that the -- the vision

 

      23        in our Southeast plan and as it carries through

 

      24        to the comp plan will be respected going forward

 

      25        and not be changed willy-nilly by developers.

 

 

 

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       1             In 2009, there were 37 changes to our comp

 

       2        plan.  That is too many.  Now that we have a

 

       3        brand-new comp plan coming up, it will be

 

       4        relevant to our -- the needs of our community

 

       5        and less likely need to be changed.

 

       6             Amendment 4 gives voters --

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN:  Ms. Stanko, we're on

 

       8        item 38, which is about the vision plan.  I'm

 

       9        going to ask you to curtail your remarks to the

 

      10        vision plan, not Amendment 4, if you would,

 

      11        please.

 

      12             MS. STANKO:  Okay.  Well, I'll just say

 

      13        that there is a very good compatibility between

 

      14        the vision plan, the comp plan, and Amendment 4,

 

      15        and I feel privileged to have been able to take

 

      16        part -- participate in this process.

 

      17             Thank you.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  If you would like to remain

 

      19        until the conclusion of the meeting, I'll -- I

 

      20        always invite folks to address the committee on

 

      21        whatever topic.  You can talk to us about

 

      22        Amendment 4 at the end if you'd like.

 

      23             MS. STANKO:  Okay.  Thank you.

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  Our next speaker -- any

 

      25        questions for Ms. Stanko?

 

 

 

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       1             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Our next speaker

 

       3        is Ms. Jenkins, followed by Bill Kintz.

 

       4             (Ms. Jenkins approaches the podium.)

 

       5             MS. JENKINS:  Thank you, Mr. Chairman and

 

       6        committee.

 

       7             Suzanne Jenkins, 4040 Woodcock Drive,

 

       8        Jacksonville, Florida 32207.

 

       9             I just wanted to come up and say thank you

 

      10        to Lisa and all the staff.  And we were not an

 

      11        easy group to always work with.  We argued a

 

      12        lot.  We had environmentalists and people in

 

      13        favor of Amendment 4 and we have -- we had

 

      14        developers and people against Amendment 4 on our

 

      15        committee, and so there were always some very

 

      16        lively discussions, but our true hearts were for

 

      17        the city and for our side of the city that --

 

      18        and how it connected, Councilman Bishop, to

 

      19        District 2 because we do share lines along

 

      20        Beach Boulevard.

 

      21             We worked long and hard about that.  We had

 

      22        many meetings, but we never left the room

 

      23        without coming to a consensus and agreement on

 

      24        the issues and how we felt about them and how we

 

      25        wanted them portrayed to the consultant and in

 

 

 

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       1        this plan.

 

       2             You will see a letter in there in the

 

       3        beginning that identifies the things that were

 

       4        important to us that we wanted to impart to

 

       5        you.  I hope you'll read them.  And when it gets

 

       6        down to brass tacks and intent, what did we mean

 

       7        when we said -- and when you have to apply the

 

       8        rubber to the road, I hope you come back to this

 

       9        and look at the intent that we saw, even at

 

      10        30,000 feet, and what we were trying to

 

      11        accomplish.

 

      12             I wish I had this when I sat over there on

 

      13        that side for those eight years.  It would have

 

      14        relieved me of some of the hard ones you have to

 

      15        make when you're not sure which way to go and

 

      16        what the intent was meant when the bill was

 

      17        written.

 

      18             So thank you for your time in listening to

 

      19        us, thank Lisa and staff.

 

      20             And Bill Killingsworth has been an awesome

 

      21        leader on this all.  He was there throughout,

 

      22        guiding us and encouraging us.

 

      23             And I appreciate your vote in support of

 

      24        it.

 

      25             Thank you.

 

 

 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Ms. Jenkins.

 

       2             Any questions for Ms. Jenkins?

 

       3             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Ms. Jenkins, if you think

 

       5        your group had lively discussions, you should

 

       6        come to the Arlington/Beaches --

 

       7             MS. JENKINS:  Yes, sir.  They invited me

 

       8        and I declined.

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  If your group reached

 

      10        consensus, we may hire you as, like, a mediator

 

      11        for the --

 

      12             MS. JENKINS:  Well, I'm always available,

 

      13        but they -- I am aware.

 

      14             Thank you.

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you for your service.

 

      16             Mr. Kintz.

 

      17             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  I hope I'm pronouncing your

 

      19        name correctly.

 

      20             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes.  It's Bill Kintz.

 

      21        My address is 3925 Maple View Drive in

 

      22        Jacksonville.

 

      23             I just want to keep my comments very

 

      24        brief.  I really felt privileged being on the

 

      25        committee -- the visioning committee for the

 

 

 

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       1        Southeast.

 

       2             Just a bit of history about -- I think it

 

       3        was about four or five years ago that

 

       4        Mayor Peyton commissioned the Growth Management

 

       5        Task Force.  And as head of the Kernan

 

       6        Coalition, we were quite involved in that.  We

 

       7        met with Bob Rhodes, who many of you know -- all

 

       8        of you know.  And one of the things that we

 

       9        called to mind was that -- there was a verse in

 

      10        Proverbs that -- without a vision, people

 

      11        perish.  And we -- just out of curiosity, we

 

      12        told Bob that we Googled "Jacksonville" and

 

      13        "vision" and we came up with a hundred hits for

 

      14        optometrists.

 

      15             Well, we can't say that now.  We really do

 

      16        have a vision, and I'm really proud and

 

      17        privileged to have served with such a great

 

      18        group.  And everything that Suzanne and my

 

      19        colleagues have said I can affirm.  We really

 

      20        struggled with this vision because we did it

 

      21        with passion.  We had a great deal of enthusiasm

 

      22        and hope about this.

 

      23             But I just wanted, again, to recognize Lisa

 

      24        Ransom and Bill Killingsworth, and especially to

 

      25        Frank Morgan and my colleagues for a job well

 

 

 

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       1        done.  And I hope that we now have growth

 

       2        leadership and visioning forward and that this

 

       3        will be a plan and a template that as we go

 

       4        forth in the next 20, 30 years and beyond that

 

       5        Jacksonville can really become everything that

 

       6        our group -- not only our group in the Southeast

 

       7        but all the other groups have envisioned for the

 

       8        city and for the citizens of Jacksonville and

 

       9        Duval County.

 

      10             Thank you.

 

      11             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, sir.

 

      12             Any questions for Mr. Kintz?

 

      13             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, sir.

 

      15             Appreciate your service.

 

      16             All right.  Item 38, 2010-615, do I have a

 

      17        motion?

 

      18             MR. HOLT:  Move the bill.

 

      19             MR. REDMAN:  Second.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion by Mr. Holt, second

 

      21        by Mr. Redman.

 

      22             Any discussion?

 

      23             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, open the ballot and

 

      25        vote.

 

 

 

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       1             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

       2             MR. CRESCIMBENI:  (Votes yea.)

 

       3             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

       4             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

       5             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       6             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

       7             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       8             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

       9             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nay.

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      11        approved item 38, 2010-615.

 

      12             And, again, everyone that participated --

 

      13        Ms. Ransom, staff, volunteers, citizens -- thank

 

      14        you for your service on this.  Two good work

 

      15        products.

 

      16             All right.  We're going to return to page 2

 

      17        of the agenda.  Item 1 will be deferred this

 

      18        evening; however, we do have a scheduled public

 

      19        hearing.  The public hearing is open.

 

      20             Is anyone here to address the committee?

 

      21             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

      22             THE CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Abraham, you will need

 

      23        to fill out a yellow speaker's card at the

 

      24        conclusion of your remarks and leave it in the

 

      25        basket, but you're welcome to address the

 

 

 

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       1        committee.  And this item is being -- will be

 

       2        deferred at the request of Council President

 

       3        Webb.

 

       4             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Thank you, Chairman

 

       5        Crescimbeni.

 

       6             I had previously filled out a card --

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN:  Sorry.  I do have it now.  I

 

       8        just didn't have it.

 

       9             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  No problem.

 

      10             Thank you for the ability to address the

 

      11        council tonight.

 

      12             This application was submitted in April,

 

      13        and with a -- the assistance of the Planning

 

      14        Department, we revised the application to

 

      15        RLD-80.  The property was previously zoned PUD.

 

      16        It was a property taken by a bank in foreclosure

 

      17        and subsequently purchased by our client after

 

      18        another purchase, and thus far we have had no

 

      19        objection to the application.

 

      20             I was led to understand today that there

 

      21        would be a deferral, and I have reached out to

 

      22        Councilman Webb's office to determine the source

 

      23        of any controversy because at this point we've

 

      24        had no opposition whatsoever.  So my client is

 

      25        anxious to move on with their project and we're

 

 

 

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       1        anxious to find out what the concerns may be.

 

       2        So we would ask that the application be

 

       3        proceeded as quickly as possible.

 

       4             I'll be happy to answer any questions that

 

       5        you might have.

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Any questions from the

 

       7        committee?

 

       8             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing none, thank you

 

      10        Mr. Abraham.

 

      11             You may want to stick around because I have

 

      12        two cards from two others who have marked

 

      13        opposition, so that may shed some light on --

 

      14             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  That would be helpful.

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  -- the problem.  Okay?

 

      16             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Thank you.

 

      17             THE CHAIRMAN:  And, Mr. Kelly, we're going

 

      18        to hold off on your report.  You'll address this

 

      19        issue in two weeks -- actually, it will be two

 

      20        weeks and one day.  We meet on a Wednesday in

 

      21        September because of the Labor Day holiday, but

 

      22        we'll take this issue back up then, pending, you

 

      23        know, no further request from the council

 

      24        president, who is also the district councilman

 

      25        in this matter.

 

 

 

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       1             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes, sir.

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Thank you,

 

       3        Mr. Abraham.

 

       4             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Thank you.

 

       5             THE CHAIRMAN:  My next speaker is Angela

 

       6        Cole, followed by Devon Cole.

 

       7             If y'all would make your way forward.

 

       8             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

       9             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Hello.  Good evening.

 

      10             Devon Cole, 5014 Greenland Road.

 

      11             Appreciate your [sic] opportunity to speak

 

      12        this evening.

 

      13             We have been in opposition to this since

 

      14        its inception.  We've been at several meetings

 

      15        where the meetings have been deferred, so our

 

      16        opportunity to speak, I guess, has not been made

 

      17        known to Mr. Abraham, but he is incorrect in

 

      18        believing that somebody is not in opposition to

 

      19        this.

 

      20             I've expressed that to the -- I believe

 

      21        it's the owner's real estate agent, Mike Ashidi

 

      22        (phonetic) or Asichi (phonetic), I'm not sure

 

      23        how to pronounce his last name, but he sent us a

 

      24        letter April 13th asking me if we would be

 

      25        interested in selling our property, upon which

 

 

 

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       1        he goes on to say that he would make a serious

 

       2        offer.  Once we received his offer, clearly it

 

       3        was not serious, and I expressed that to him.

 

       4        And then in the past weeks and months we've made

 

       5        several attempts to -- you know, to protest

 

       6        this, and it continues to get deferred, so we

 

       7        are here tonight to let our voices be heard and

 

       8        let you know that we are in firm opposition to

 

       9        this.

 

      10             Our property is only 88 feet wide.  The

 

      11        property in question they're looking at -- or

 

      12        they have purchased is 176 feet wide, which

 

      13        borders us once on the east side.  We're

 

      14        bordered on the west side by the Hindu temple of

 

      15        Northeast Florida -- or the Hindu Society of

 

      16        Northeast Florida.  Given this -- also on the

 

      17        east side of us is Greenland Pines Elementary.

 

      18             Considering these things, I believe what

 

      19        they're here for is an exception, and it appears

 

      20        that the City has made exceptions already in

 

      21        this area.  It's mine and my wife's belief both

 

      22        that if they are allowed to go through with

 

      23        their project that that will completely hinder

 

      24        us from ever being able to sell our home for any

 

      25        reasonable amount of money at all.

 

 

 

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       1             Basically, that's where we're at with our

 

       2        opposition and we just want to make sure that

 

       3        we're considered.

 

       4             I've been there since 1998.  I understand

 

       5        that, you know, he has somebody he's

 

       6        representing and he's trying to represent their

 

       7        best interest.  I'm here to make sure that I'm

 

       8        representing my best interest because we --

 

       9        we've dealt with this problem since the previous

 

      10        developer, and it's just led on and they just

 

      11        happen to be the latest people that get to hear

 

      12        my opposition to it.

 

      13             Thank you.

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Cole.

 

      15             Is your property contiguous to the subject

 

      16        property?

 

      17             MR. COLE:  Yes.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  Are you next door to it?

 

      19             MR. COLE:  Yes.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  And are you between the

 

      21        school and the subject property or the house of

 

      22        worship and the subject property?

 

      23             MR. COLE:  I'm in between the -- yes, I'm

 

      24        in between the Hindu Society and the subject

 

      25        property.

 

 

 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you.

 

       2             Mr. Joost.

 

       3             MR. JOOST:  Thank you.

 

       4             Through the chairman, real quick, have you

 

       5        had an appraisal on your house done recently or

 

       6        on your property?

 

       7             MR. COLE:  Actually, they had an appraisal

 

       8        done on our home.

 

       9             MR. JOOST:  I was just curious as to what

 

      10        the offer was versus a recent appraisal value.

 

      11             MR. COLE:  Well, their recent appraisal

 

      12        value, in my opinion, was a -- a rather

 

      13        lackluster appraisal value, but upon that, they

 

      14        deducted another $50,000 off the appraisal

 

      15        value.  So I guess when you're addressing a

 

      16        serious offer, your serious offer must be, send

 

      17        your own appraiser; once he gives you a

 

      18        lackluster appraisal, then deduct $50,000 off of

 

      19        that, and then that's what we're expecting you

 

      20        to take, so -- and his response to that was,

 

      21        "You don't know how to negotiate," so --

 

      22             MR. JOOST:  Okay.  Thank you.

 

      23             THE CHAIRMAN:  But you haven't conducted --

 

      24        you haven't arranged to have your own appraisal

 

      25        done on your own property?

 

 

 

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       1             MR. COLE:  No, sir, but we -- we are in the

 

       2        process of doing that.

 

       3             MR. JOOST:  Thank you.

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, sir.

 

       5             Ms. Cole, did you want to address the

 

       6        committee?

 

       7             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes, I do have a few

 

       8        things.

 

       9             My name is Angela Cole and I'm at 5014

 

      10        Greenland Road, Jacksonville, Florida 32258.

 

      11             A couple of things that I wanted to

 

      12        mention.

 

      13             In the appraisal that we've had done

 

      14        recently, it does clearly state -- and we can

 

      15        give you a copy of that -- that because we have

 

      16        a church next door to us, that that diminishes

 

      17        the value of our property.  So if we are in

 

      18        between two churches, that's going to diminish

 

      19        our value even less.  So that's the first thing

 

      20        I want to mention.

 

      21             And another thing is when we talked to

 

      22        Mr. Ashi (phonetic), who is the representative

 

      23        for the church in question, when we couldn't

 

      24        come to an agreement on the amount of money that

 

      25        they wanted to give us versus what we wanted to

 

 

 

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       1        sell the property, he said that he would just

 

       2        let the lawyers deal with it.  So, unfortunately

 

       3        for us, we don't have as deep of pockets as they

 

       4        do -- so I don't appreciate that.  It seems sort

 

       5        of like a threat to me versus trying to be

 

       6        willing to work with us.

 

       7             So, at this point, you know, we don't

 

       8        see -- there's a couple of things also.  An

 

       9        8-foot privacy fence is on one side of us, and

 

      10        they'll have to put another 8-foot privacy

 

      11        fence, which will basically put us in a valley

 

      12        where you can't see on either side of the

 

      13        property.

 

      14             We have to deal with parking lot lights

 

      15        right now with the Hindu temple, and we're going

 

      16        to have those on the other side of that we'll

 

      17        have to deal with.

 

      18             Along with this property is also -- been

 

      19        built up, and three feet above what it was

 

      20        supposed to be.  And they were supposed to

 

      21        remove that dirt, which they have not, and

 

      22        that's caused severe flooding in our property

 

      23        and actually ruined sod, and just various things

 

      24        like that.

 

      25             So we've had a lot of problems with this

 

 

 

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       1        property and we are definitely opposed to having

 

       2        anything else done to it at this point.

 

       3             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Ms. Cole.

 

       4             Any questions for Ms. Cole?

 

       5             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Thank you,

 

       7        again.

 

       8             This item is going to be deferred.  The

 

       9        public hearing is continued, and we will defer

 

      10        the bill and hopefully take it up in two weeks.

 

      11             MS. COLE:  Thank you very much.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  You're welcome to join us --

 

      13        I'm sorry, in two weeks and one day.  It's

 

      14        Wednesday the 8th or something like that, but it

 

      15        will be on a Wednesday night, not a Tuesday

 

      16        night.

 

      17             MS. COLE:  Thank you.

 

      18             MR. COLE:  Thank you for the opportunity.

 

      19             THE CHAIRMAN:  Item 2010-374.

 

      20             Mr. Crofts, would you care to deliver the

 

      21        report, please.

 

      22             MR. CROFTS:  Yes, sir.

 

      23             Item 2010-374 concerns a property located

 

      24        at 4617 Brentwood Avenue and 670 Long Branch

 

      25        Boulevard, which is located in the Northwest

 

 

 

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       1        Planning District in Council District 7.

 

       2             This request seeks to rezone property,

 

       3        approximately 3. -- .33 acres, from CCG-2 and

 

       4        RMD-A to planned unit development.  The PUD

 

       5        rezoning is being sought to expand a current

 

       6        medical use on the corner lot at Brentwood and

 

       7        Long Branch Boulevard for the extension of

 

       8        medical services provided by a digital motion

 

       9        X-ray machine.

 

      10             Basically, the allowable uses that will be

 

      11        provided in this proposed PUD will be the CO

 

      12        zoning district designations along with this

 

      13        specific office-related medical use.  There will

 

      14        be no retail sales, storage of merchandise on

 

      15        the property, and the parking of vehicles over

 

      16        5,000 pounds is prohibited.

 

      17             We have looked at this application.  We

 

      18        found it consistent with several policies in the

 

      19        future land use element of the comprehensive

 

      20        plan dealing with compact growth and infill,

 

      21        innovative design, and efficiency in delivery of

 

      22        services, and the department has recommended

 

      23        approval with the following six conditions.

 

      24        Those conditions are as follows:

 

      25             "The development shall be subject to the

 

 

 

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       1        original legal description dated June 1st,

 

       2        2010."

 

       3             "The development shall be subject to the

 

       4        original written description dated June 1st,

 

       5        2010."

 

       6             Number 3, "The development shall be subject

 

       7        to the original site plan dated June 1st, 2010."

 

       8             Number 4, "The required transportation

 

       9        improvements shall be made in accordance with

 

      10        the Development Services Division memorandum

 

      11        dated June 15th, 2010, or as otherwise approved

 

      12        by the Planning and Development Department."

 

      13             Number 5, "Monument signage shall be

 

      14        externally illuminated."

 

      15             Number 6 and finally, "All interior

 

      16        renovations and alterations shall be constructed

 

      17        consistent with the room layout form dated

 

      18        August 17th, 2010, attached hereto as

 

      19        Exhibit 3."

 

      20             Thank you.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Crofts.

 

      22             This is a quasi-judicial matter, so does

 

      23        anyone have any ex-parte communication to

 

      24        disclose?

 

      25             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

 

 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Seeing none, we

 

       2        have a public hearing on the bill.  The public

 

       3        hearing is open.

 

       4             I have one speaker's card, Donald Thomas.

 

       5             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

       6             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes.

 

       7             My name is Donald Thomas with Realty

 

       8        Executives.  My address is 12740-6 Atlantic

 

       9        Boulevard, Jacksonville, Florida 32225.

 

      10             And I am the realtor for Dr. Royce McGowans

 

      11        [sic] and Shelita McGowans, and I would just

 

      12        like to say we agree with all conditions that

 

      13        was put up on the change, all six conditions.

 

      14             And I would just like to thank the staff,

 

      15        Mr. Avery and Marvin Echols and Mr. Bruce Lewis,

 

      16        for helping us out with this process.

 

      17             That's all I have to say.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Thank you, sir.

 

      19             Any questions from the committee?

 

      20             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Seeing none,

 

      22        anyone else care to address the committee?  I

 

      23        have no other speaker cards.

 

      24             AUDIENCE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      25             THE CHAIRMAN:  The public hearing, then, is

 

 

 

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       1        closed.

 

       2             Is there a motion on the amendment?

 

       3             MR. HOLT:  Move the amendment.

 

       4             MR. REDMAN:  Second.

 

       5             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion by Mr. Holt, second

 

       6        by Mr. Redman.

 

       7             Discussion?

 

       8             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, all those in favor

 

      10        say yes.

 

      11             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Yes.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  Opposed say no.

 

      13             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      15        adopted the amendment.

 

      16             MR. HOLT:  Move the bill as amended.

 

      17             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion on the bill as

 

      18        amended by Mr. Holt --

 

      19             MR. REDMAN:  Second.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  -- second by Mr. Redman.

 

      21             Discussion?  I have Mr. Bishop on the

 

      22        queue.

 

      23             Mr. Bishop.

 

      24             MR. BISHOP:  Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

 

      25             I have just one quick question for

 

 

 

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       1        Mr. Crofts.

 

       2             In looking at the zoning map, this shows

 

       3        the existing area is CCG-2 and RMD-A.  This

 

       4        application looks to me like it's extending what

 

       5        in a sense is commercial uses down Long Branch

 

       6        Boulevard.  Could you elaborate on why this, in

 

       7        your opinion, does not constitute commercial

 

       8        intrusion -- or additional commercial intrusion

 

       9        into a residential area?

 

      10             MR. CROFTS:  In our particular case,

 

      11        through the Chair, the use is in an MDR land use

 

      12        classification, first of all, and then allows,

 

      13        as a secondary zoning district, these types of

 

      14        uses, first of all.  So we've got the overriding

 

      15        land use designation at a density of MDR.

 

      16             Second of all, the intensity of the use and

 

      17        the access of the use is so minimalistic, in our

 

      18        terms, in terms of conversion or use, that it's

 

      19        going to have a very minimal effect on the

 

      20        adjacent residential.  It's going to be oriented

 

      21        to Brentwood.

 

      22             And the restrictions that we put out in

 

      23        terms of intensity, in terms of orientation, and

 

      24        in terms of the use with the -- with the PUD,

 

      25        the specificity of it, we feel that it's going

 

 

 

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       1        to basically be seamless and be very close to

 

       2        actually a residential use in a single-family

 

       3        house, which is going to remain unchanged

 

       4        externally.

 

       5             MR. BISHOP:  Okay.  Thank you very much.

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Bishop.

 

       7             Any other questions?

 

       8             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  No further discussion?

 

      10             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      11             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  We have a motion

 

      12        and a second on the bill.

 

      13             Open the ballot and vote, please.

 

      14             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      15             MR. CRESCIMBENI:  (Votes yea.)

 

      16             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      17             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      18             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      19             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

      20             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      21             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      22             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nay.

 

      23             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      24        approved item 2, 2010-374.

 

      25             Item 3, at the bottom of the page, is

 

 

 

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       1        deferred.

 

       2             Turning to page 3, at the top, Mr. Kelly,

 

       3        is this the one that -- which was the item that

 

       4        you had mentioned earlier, prior to the meeting,

 

       5        that there was a problem with on some -- was it

 

       6        a waiver?

 

       7             MR. KELLY:  That's correct.  It's the sign

 

       8        waiver, -499.  It's item 14.

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Thank you.

 

      10             All right.  Item 4, 2010-447.  Is there a

 

      11        report from anybody in the Planning Department

 

      12        on this issue?

 

      13             MR. KELLY:  The department initially, I

 

      14        guess, had begun and had a report ready for

 

      15        August 3rd, the public hearing on this item.

 

      16        However, the applicant had indicated that the

 

      17        site plan had changed and had altered the

 

      18        request between the distance between the two

 

      19        signs, so there was a debate as to whether or

 

      20        not we had to renotice and readvertise.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  We have a public

 

      22        hearing scheduled on this item this evening.

 

      23             The public hearing is open.  I have no

 

      24        speaker cards.  Seeing no one, the public

 

      25        hearing is closed -- I'm sorry, continued to

 

 

 

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       1        September 8th, and we have no other action on

 

       2        this bill.

 

       3             Item 5, item 6, and item 7 on page 3 are

 

       4        all deferred.

 

       5             Turning to page 4, items 8, 9, and 10 are

 

       6        deferred.  That brings us to item 11.

 

       7             Mr. Crofts.

 

       8             MR. CROFTS:  Mr. Chairman and members of

 

       9        the committee, item 11 on our agenda is

 

      10        ordinance 2010-496.  It seeks to rezone a piece

 

      11        of property containing 4.25 acres from

 

      12        commercial office to PUD.  The property is

 

      13        addressed at 11400 Old St. Augustine Road and is

 

      14        located in Council District 6, in the Southeast

 

      15        Planning District.

 

      16             The purpose of this particular application

 

      17        is the conversion and utilization, again, of a

 

      18        single-family house to a private club to allow

 

      19        alcohol sales and service for the purpose of the

 

      20        utilization of the Old St. Augustine Road

 

      21        Elks Club.

 

      22             The size of the house is 1,400 square feet

 

      23        and the proposed use will occupy no more space

 

      24        than the reflected existing structure.  The

 

      25        proposed use is described as an adaptive reuse

 

 

 

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       1        of the property with really no or little

 

       2        increase in intensity of the use that is

 

       3        currently allowed under the CO zoning

 

       4        designation.

 

       5             A private club that will be restricted in

 

       6        terms of hours of operation, signage,

 

       7        appropriate access, and parking will be provided

 

       8        in accordance with Section 656 of the zoning

 

       9        code.

 

      10             Staff has recommended approval of this item

 

      11        in view of its consistency with several future

 

      12        land use element policies dealing with compact

 

      13        roads, compatible land use, and the promotion of

 

      14        a planned unit development and mixed-use

 

      15        development or other innovative approaches to

 

      16        planning and development.

 

      17             Staff recommends approval with a series of

 

      18        conditions that -- staff recommends approval of

 

      19        this item with the following conditions:

 

      20             Condition number 1, "The development shall

 

      21        be subject to the original legal description

 

      22        dated June 7th, 2010."

 

      23             Number 2, "The development shall be subject

 

      24        to the original written description dated

 

      25        June 7th, 2010."

 

 

 

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       1             Number 3, "The development shall be subject

 

       2        to the original site plan dated June 7th, 2010."

 

       3             Number 4, "The development of the property

 

       4        shall proceed in accordance with the Development

 

       5        Services Division memorandum dated June 8th,

 

       6        2010, or as otherwise approved by the Planning

 

       7        and Development Department."

 

       8             Number 5, "All structures on the property

 

       9        shall retain a residential appearance and

 

      10        character."

 

      11             Number 6, "A 25-foot buffer" -- I'm

 

      12        sorry -- "A 25-foot-wide undisturbed buffer

 

      13        shall be provided along the southern and western

 

      14        property lines."

 

      15             Number 7, "The proposed monument sign shall

 

      16        not exceed 35 square feet in area and be no

 

      17        taller than 60 inches as measured from the

 

      18        ground to the top of the sign, which includes

 

      19        all sign features or structures."

 

      20             Number 8.  Okay.  I have a substitute

 

      21        condition for number 8 and 9 as in the

 

      22        correspondence -- and this is now the new item

 

      23        number 8 condition.  It deals with lighting.

 

      24             "All sag lenses, drop lenses, and convex

 

      25        lenses shall be prohibited.  Illumination levels

 

 

 

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       1        at all property lines shall not exceed one-half

 

       2        footcandle when the building or parking areas

 

       3        are located adjacent to residential areas and

 

       4        shall not exceed one footcandle when abutting

 

       5        other nonresidential properties.

 

       6             "All lighting lamp sources within parking

 

       7        and pedestrian areas shall be metal halide or

 

       8        compact florescent.  The maximum light pole

 

       9        height in all parking areas shall not exceed

 

      10        10 feet.

 

      11             "An exterior lighting design plan for each

 

      12        project, including a photometrics plan, pole

 

      13        fixture schedules, shall be submitted at the

 

      14        time of verification of substantial compliance

 

      15        for review and approval by the Planning and

 

      16        Development Department."

 

      17             Ninth and finally, "A buffer meeting the

 

      18        requirements of Section 656.1216 of the zoning

 

      19        code shall be provided and maintained along the

 

      20        western property line."

 

      21             Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

 

      22             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Crofts.

 

      23             Mr. Joost, did you have a question on the

 

      24        report or you want to --

 

      25             MR. JOOST:  (Inaudible.)

 

 

 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.

 

       2             Thank you, Mr. Crofts.

 

       3             This is a quasi-judicial matter, so we're

 

       4        at the point that you can do that, Mr. Joost.

 

       5             Anyone have any ex-parte to disclose?

 

       6             MR. JOOST:  Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

 

       7             It's not ex-parte, but I would like it on

 

       8        the record, I'm a member of the Elks Lodge down

 

       9        in Green Cove Springs.  I want that on the

 

      10        record.  It does not enure to my benefit or this

 

      11        particular lodge's benefit, so I have no

 

      12        conflict, but I do want that on the record.

 

      13             Thank you.

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you for that

 

      15        disclosure, Mr. Joost.

 

      16             Anyone else?

 

      17             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  We do have a

 

      19        public hearing on this item.  The public hearing

 

      20        is open.  I have two speaker cards, Dan Bird and

 

      21        Richard Strobell.

 

      22             Mr. Bird, we'll start with you.

 

      23             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  You didn't check whether you

 

      25        support or oppose.  I'm assuming you're in

 

 

 

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       1        support?

 

       2             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes.

 

       3             My name is Dan Bird.  My address is 173

 

       4        Prince Phillip Drive, St. Augustine, Florida.

 

       5             I am here to agree with all the terms on

 

       6        behalf of the benevolent protective order of

 

       7        Elks.  We are the purchasers of the property,

 

       8        and I see no problems with abiding [sic] all of

 

       9        these rules.

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Bird, what is your

 

      11        connection to the Elks?  Are you a member of the

 

      12        Elks?

 

      13             MR. BIRD:  I am a member of it and I'm also

 

      14        the licensed real estate agent that is

 

      15        purchasing the property for the Elks.

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, sir.

 

      17             Any questions from the committee?

 

      18             MR. REDMAN:  I have to declare ex-parte,

 

      19        I'm sorry.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Thank you, Mr. Bird.

 

      21             Mr. Redman.

 

      22             MR. REDMAN:  Yes.  I need to declare

 

      23        ex-parte.  Just before the meeting, I talked

 

      24        with the gentlemen -- all the gentlemen

 

      25        concerning this.

 

 

 

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       1             Thank you.

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Redman.

 

       3             Our second speaker is Richard Strobell.

 

       4             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

       5             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Richard Strobell, 11505

 

       6        St. Josephs Road, Jacksonville, Florida 32223.

 

       7             A week ago, I stood up here and talked

 

       8        about objecting to the PUD across the creek from

 

       9        me, next door to me.  It's -- I've met with

 

      10        Mr. Herzberg and have gone through several

 

      11        talks.

 

      12             I believe that this is a favorable PUD for

 

      13        the neighborhood.  They are willing to give us

 

      14        the buffer on our west- -- their western

 

      15        property line, my eastern property line.  And as

 

      16        long as that buffer is in the amended conditions

 

      17        and it is provided, I'm fine with this and I

 

      18        would not oppose having this go through.

 

      19             So I am changing my opinion and supporting

 

      20        this provided that that buffer is provided for

 

      21        in this PUD.

 

      22             Thank you.

 

      23             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Strobell.  I

 

      24        apologize for mispronouncing your name.

 

      25             Any questions from the committee?

 

 

 

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       1             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Seeing no one --

 

       3        no other speaker cards, the public hearing is

 

       4        closed.  We're back in committee.

 

       5             Question to Mr. Crofts or Mr. Kelly.  I'm

 

       6        sorry.  Who -- where is the access from this --

 

       7        this has a St. Augustine Road address, but -- on

 

       8        the map.  Where do they actually --

 

       9             MR. KELLY:  That's correct.

 

      10             There's an easement through the office

 

      11        building in front of this property.  This is

 

      12        actually an essentially landlocked piece of

 

      13        property.  They do have access through the

 

      14        commercial property in front of them, directly

 

      15        to St. Augustine.

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  When you say "office

 

      17        building," are you talking about the shopping

 

      18        center --

 

      19             MR. KELLY:  Correct.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  -- that's in the picture

 

      21        here?

 

      22             MR. KELLY:  CCG, yes.

 

      23             THE CHAIRMAN:  Do they have to actually

 

      24        turn onto that Oldfield Crossing or whatever and

 

      25        then turn into the shopping center?

 

 

 

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       1             MR. KELLY:  There is -- in the report,

 

       2        there's an exhibit of the survey.  It's probably

 

       3        not too clear.  It's, I guess, on page 4 of 11,

 

       4        which has the driveway easement all the way from

 

       5        Old St. Augustine Road that goes through the

 

       6        center.

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN:  Is it the one by Clarson &

 

       8        Associates, the survey?  Am I looking at the

 

       9        right thing?

 

      10             MR. KELLY:  That is the improvements from

 

      11        Oldfield Crossing Drive, correct.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  All right.

 

      13        Thank you.

 

      14             And, Mr. Joost, did you have a question

 

      15        about the buffer?

 

      16             MR. JOOST:  Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

 

      17             In the buffer that this gentleman referred

 

      18        to on a -- on his property, is that in the

 

      19        conditions now?

 

      20             MR. CROFTS:  Yes.

 

      21             MR. JOOST:  Okay.  Thank you.

 

      22             THE CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Crofts, can you answer

 

      23        on the record, please?

 

      24             MR. CROFTS:  I'm sorry.

 

      25             Yes, it is.

 

 

 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, sir.

 

       2             All right.  Any other discussion?

 

       3             MR. REINGOLD:  (Indicating.)

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Reingold.

 

       5             MR. REINGOLD:  To the Chair, I know it was

 

       6        very last minute of Mr. Bird to sort of serve as

 

       7        agent today for the property owner.  My only

 

       8        request of Mr. Bird -- and I talked to him

 

       9        before the meeting -- was that he provide an

 

      10        agent authorization letter from Ms. Williams

 

      11        before the City Council meeting next Tuesday.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  And, Mr. Bird, you agree to

 

      13        that, correct?

 

      14             MR. BIRD:  Yes, sir.  As long as I have a

 

      15        form to take to her, I'll take it to her

 

      16        tomorrow.

 

      17             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Thank you, sir.

 

      18             And, Mr. Reingold, if you'll follow-up when

 

      19        you receive that just so we're clear for

 

      20        Tuesday.

 

      21             MR. REINGOLD:  Yes.  Actually, if the

 

      22        Planning Department could help me out.  They're

 

      23        the ones who have the agent authorization forms

 

      24        in their office and if they can provide one to

 

      25        Mr. Bird, that would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Thank you, sir.

 

       2             Back in committee.  Do we have a motion on

 

       3        the amendment?

 

       4             MR. BISHOP:  Move the amendment.

 

       5             MR. REDMAN:  Second.

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion by Mr. Bishop, second

 

       7        by Mr. Redman.  That includes all the

 

       8        conditions.

 

       9             Is there any discussion?

 

      10             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      11             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, all those in favor

 

      12        say yes.

 

      13             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Yes.

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  Opposed say no.

 

      15             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  By our action, you've

 

      17        adopted the amendment.

 

      18             MR. BISHOP:  Move the bill as amended.

 

      19             MR. JOOST:  Second.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion by Mr. Bishop on the

 

      21        bill as amended, second by Mr. Joost.

 

      22             Any discussion?

 

      23             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, open the ballot and

 

      25        vote.

 

 

 

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       1             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

       2             MR. CRESCIMBENI:  (Votes yea.)

 

       3             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

       4             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

       5             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       6             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

       7             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       8             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

       9             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nay.

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      11        approved item 11, 2010-496.

 

      12             Turning to page 5, item 12 --

 

      13             MR. BROWN:  (Inaudible.)

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  Let me get the report in and

 

      15        then we'll do ex-parte.

 

      16             Mr. Kelly.

 

      17             MR. KELLY:  Thank you.

 

      18             To the Chair and to the committee members,

 

      19        application for rezoning 2010-497 seeks to

 

      20        rezone approximately a .7-acre parcel located at

 

      21        2737 Hamilton Circle.  This .7 acres is being

 

      22        rezoned from RLD-60 to PBF-1 zoning.  The

 

      23        property was recently acquired by the City of

 

      24        Jacksonville.  The intended use for this site is

 

      25        to be used for a joint recreation facility in

 

 

 

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       1        conjunction with the George Washington Carver

 

       2        Elementary School.

 

       3             The department finds, again, this rezoning

 

       4        would be consistent with the 2030 Comprehensive

 

       5        Plan.  In fact, it furthers the goals,

 

       6        objectives, and policies contained within the

 

       7        2030 Comprehensive Plan, specifically recreation

 

       8        open space element policy 1.1.1; additionally,

 

       9        the recreation open space element policy 1.5.1

 

      10        and 1.5.2.  We do find that it does not conflict

 

      11        with any existing land development regulations,

 

      12        and we are in support of this rezoning.

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Kelly.

 

      14             This is a quasi-judicial matter, so does

 

      15        anyone have any ex-parte to disclose?

 

      16             Mr. Brown.

 

      17             MS. BROWN:  Yes, Mr. Chairman.

 

      18             I'd like to declare ex-parte.  I had

 

      19        several conversations with Derrick Joseph

 

      20        (phonetic) with Parks and Recreation regarding

 

      21        this project.

 

      22             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, sir.

 

      23             Anyone else?

 

      24             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      25             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Seeing no one, we do

 

 

 

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       1        have a public hearing scheduled this evening.

 

       2        The public hearing is open.  I have no speaker

 

       3        cards.

 

       4             Anyone care to address the committee?

 

       5             AUDIENCE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing no one, the public

 

       7        hearing is closed.

 

       8             Is there a motion on the bill?

 

       9             MR. BISHOP:  Move the bill.

 

      10             MR. BROWN:  Second.

 

      11             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion by Mr. Bishop, second

 

      12        by Mr. Brown.

 

      13             Any discussion?

 

      14             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, open the ballot and

 

      16        vote.

 

      17             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      18             MR. CRESCIMBENI:  (Votes yea.)

 

      19             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      20             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      21             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      22             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

      23             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      24             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      25             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nay.

 

 

 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

       2        approved item 12, 2010-497.

 

       3             Item 13, 2010-498.

 

       4             Mr. Kelly.

 

       5             MR. KELLY:  Thank you.

 

       6             To the Chair and committee members,

 

       7        application for rezoning 2010-498 seeks to

 

       8        rezone approximately 1.5 acres of land located

 

       9        at 6671 Sandymac Road.  This is between

 

      10        Commonwealth Avenue and Clayton Road.  The

 

      11        requested rezoning is going from IBP to PBF-1.

 

      12        This proposed new property here acquired by the

 

      13        City fire department is intended to be a fire

 

      14        station at this location.

 

      15             The department finds this is consistent

 

      16        with the 2030 Comprehensive Plan and finds that

 

      17        it furthers the intent and goals and objectives

 

      18        and policies within the comprehensive plan and

 

      19        that it does not conflict with any land use

 

      20        regulations, and the department is recommending

 

      21        approval.

 

      22             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Kelly.

 

      23             This matter is also quasi-judicial.  Does

 

      24        anyone have any ex-parte communication to

 

      25        disclose?

 

 

 

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       1             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing none, we have a

 

       3        public hearing scheduled this evening.  The

 

       4        public hearing is open.  I have no speaker

 

       5        cards.

 

       6             Anyone care to address the committee?

 

       7             AUDIENCE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       8             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing no one, the public

 

       9        hearing is closed.

 

      10             MR. HOLT:  Move the bill.

 

      11             MR. REDMAN:  Second.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion on the bill by

 

      13        Mr. Holt; second, I believe, by Mr. Redman.

 

      14             Any discussion?

 

      15             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, open the ballot,

 

      17        vote.

 

      18             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      19             MR. CRESCIMBENI:  (Votes yea.)

 

      20             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      21             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      22             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      23             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

      24             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      25             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

 

 

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       1             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nay.

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

       3        approved item 13, 2010-498.

 

       4             Also wanted to -- I failed to see Ms. Hipps

 

       5        out there.  Another former council

 

       6        representative is with us tonight.

 

       7             Ms. Hipps, thank you for being here.  I

 

       8        recognized Ms. Jenkins earlier.  If you were

 

       9        here, I apologize.  I didn't see you sitting way

 

      10        back there.  You've got to wear these

 

      11        (indicating) to see that far back, so --

 

      12             Item 14, 2010-499.

 

      13             Now, Mr. Kelly, this is the one that you

 

      14        had a request to defer?

 

      15             MR. KELLY:  That's correct.  I believe the

 

      16        applicant or the agent for the applicant is here

 

      17        to speak to that.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Do you know who -- is

 

      19        the agent Mr. Watson?  Is the agent --

 

      20             (Audience member approaches the podium.)

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Did you fill out a speaker

 

      22        card, sir?

 

      23             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Yes, sir, I did.

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.

 

      25             All right.  Do we need to disclose quasi-

 

 

 

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       1        just -- if we're going to defer it this evening,

 

       2        Mr. Reingold?

 

       3             MR. REINGOLD:  I think the proper posture

 

       4        would be to sort of maybe just have a brief

 

       5        discussion with the applicant as to the request

 

       6        for the deferral.  If the committee decides to

 

       7        defer it, then you could withhold on ex-parte

 

       8        communication disclosures till the next public

 

       9        hearing.

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Mr. Watson, if you'll

 

      11        give your name and address for the record.  I

 

      12        know you filled out a speaker's card, but --

 

      13             AUDIENCE MEMBER:  Hubert Watson, 9917

 

      14        Margate Hills Road, Jacksonville, Florida.

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  And you represent the

 

      16        applicant?

 

      17             MR. WATSON:  They're a neighbor and they

 

      18        asked for my input, and I agreed to come along

 

      19        and review the process up to this point.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  And you're requesting

 

      21        a deferral?

 

      22             MR. WATSON:  Yes, sir.

 

      23             We've really not had a chance to completely

 

      24        speak to Mr. Kelly or go through the process or

 

      25        the member in whose district this lies in, and I

 

 

 

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       1        wanted to take some time to more fully go

 

       2        through the application with pertinent personnel

 

       3        of the City.

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  All right.  Thank

 

       5        you, sir.

 

       6             The Chair will grant the deferral request.

 

       7        We'll take this up in two weeks and one day,

 

       8        Wednesday -- the second Wednesday in September,

 

       9        I think it is.

 

      10             MR. REINGOLD:  September 8th.

 

      11             THE CHAIRMAN:  September 8th is the

 

      12        official date.

 

      13             We do have a public hearing scheduled this

 

      14        evening.  I do have three speakers' cards.

 

      15        They're all people in support of the bill.

 

      16             The public hearing is open.  Do any of

 

      17        y'all care to speak?  You can if you'd like.  If

 

      18        not, you can come back in two weeks.  We're not

 

      19        going to take the bill up.

 

      20             AUDIENCE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Seeing no one,

 

      22        then, the public hearing is continued --

 

      23             MR. WATSON:  Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  -- and the bill is deferred.

 

      25             Item 15, at the bottom of the page,

 

 

 

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       1        2010-525.

 

       2             MR. JOOST:  Move the amendment.

 

       3             THE CHAIRMAN:  Mr. Reingold, did you have

 

       4        anything you wanted to say on this?

 

       5             MR. REINGOLD:  Only if requested by the

 

       6        committee.

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  Thank you, sir.

 

       8             Motion on the amendment by Mr. Joost.

 

       9             Was there a second?

 

      10             MR. HOLT:  Second.

 

      11             THE CHAIRMAN:  Second by Mr. Holt.

 

      12             Discussion on the amendment?

 

      13             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, all those in favor

 

      15        say yes.

 

      16             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Yes.

 

      17             THE CHAIRMAN:  Opposed say no.

 

      18             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      19             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you've

 

      20        adopted the amendment.

 

      21             MR. HOLT:  Move the bill as amended.

 

      22             MR. REDMAN:  Second.

 

      23             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion on the bill as

 

      24        amended by Mr. Holt, second by Mr. Redman.

 

      25             Discussion?

 

 

 

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       1             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing none, open the

 

       3        ballot, vote.

 

       4             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

       5             MR. CRESCIMBENI:  (Votes yea.)

 

       6             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

       7             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

       8             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       9             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

      10             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      11             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      12             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nay.

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  By our action, you've

 

      14        approved item 15, 2010-525, as amended.

 

      15             Turning to page 6, beginning with item 16

 

      16        and continuing all the way over to the bottom of

 

      17        page 10, item 35, all those items will be

 

      18        deferred this evening.

 

      19             That takes us to the top of page 11,

 

      20        item 36.

 

      21             Mr. Kelly.

 

      22             MR. KELLY:  Thank you.

 

      23             To the Chair and committee members,

 

      24        ordinance 2010-613.  This is a proposed

 

      25        ordinance that amends Part 15 of the zoning code

 

 

 

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       1        dealing with cell towers and tower review

 

       2        standards.

 

       3             Essentially, what this does, this bill will

 

       4        provide for a notice requirement for

 

       5        Track-II-type, camouflage, low-impact, stealth

 

       6        towers.  These types of towers previously were

 

       7        not required to be noticed, however, were

 

       8        required to be approved through a public hearing

 

       9        at the Planning Commission, so it was one of

 

      10        those oddball situations where you had a public

 

      11        hearing for something that didn't require any

 

      12        notice, and now this brings in the notice

 

      13        requirement for that.  There's no advertised

 

      14        notice, but it is a mailed notice to property

 

      15        owners within 350 feet.

 

      16             Additionally, this brings an amendment to

 

      17        the landscaping requirements, mitigating the

 

      18        buffering around the base of the tower site

 

      19        itself, and this brings basically the

 

      20        requirement back consistent with the

 

      21        uncomplementary land use buffer requirements

 

      22        under 656.1216 of the zoning code, which is your

 

      23        typical uncomplementary land use buffer.

 

      24             The department has reviewed this and finds

 

      25        that it is a very good improvement to increase

 

 

 

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       1        the public's ability for input and we support

 

       2        this request.

 

       3             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, Mr. Kelly.

 

       4             Just for the record, so that the -- my

 

       5        colleagues on the committee don't think this was

 

       6        all my idea, will you kindly state who suggested

 

       7        that the sponsor become a sponsor?

 

       8             MR. REINGOLD:  I see staff sort of looking

 

       9        around back and forth.  I can answer that

 

      10        question.

 

      11             I believe Mr. Killingsworth came to you,

 

      12        sir, and said, here's something I think would be

 

      13        a really good idea that I think the LUZ Chair

 

      14        would be in favor of.  And, obviously, based

 

      15        upon you being the sponsor, you agreed with him.

 

      16             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you for the

 

      17        clarification.  It's amazing what got such a

 

      18        stellar report from the Planning Department.

 

      19        How does that happen?

 

      20             (Simultaneous speaking.)

 

      21             MR. REINGOLD:  (Inaudible.)

 

      22             THE CHAIRMAN:  Very good -- you don't

 

      23        hear "very good" too often.

 

      24             All right.  With that said, we have a

 

      25        public hearing on this item.  The public hearing

 

 

 

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       1        is open.  I have no speakers' cards.

 

       2             Seeing no one in the audience, the public

 

       3        hearing is closed.

 

       4             MR. BISHOP:  Move the bill.

 

       5             MR. HOLT:  Second.

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion by Mr. Bishop, second

 

       7        by Mr. Holt.

 

       8             Discussion?

 

       9             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  If not, open the ballot,

 

      11        vote.

 

      12             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      13             MR. CRESCIMBENI:  (Votes yea.)

 

      14             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      15             MR. BISHOP:  (Votes yea.)

 

      16             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      17             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

      18             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      19             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      20             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nay.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      22        approved item 36, 2010-613.

 

      23             At the bottom of page 11, beginning with

 

      24        item 39 all the way through the last item on

 

      25        page 15, item 58, all those bills are second and

 

 

 

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       1        rereferred.

 

       2             That concludes our agenda.

 

       3             Is there anyone in the audience that would

 

       4        care to address the committee?

 

       5             AUDIENCE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  I only see two people and

 

       7        they're addressing each other.

 

       8             So, with that, anything else to come before

 

       9        the committee?

 

      10             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      11             STAFF MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  This meeting is

 

      13        adjourned, and we'll see you back here on

 

      14        Wednesday, September 8th.

 

      15             Thank you all.

 

      16             (The above proceedings were adjourned at

 

      17        6:10 p.m.)

 

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       3   STATE OF FLORIDA:

 

       4   COUNTY OF DUVAL :

 

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       6             I, Diane M. Tropia, certify that I was

 

       7   authorized to and did stenographically report the

 

       8   foregoing proceedings and that the transcript is a

 

       9   true and complete record of my stenographic notes.

 

      10             Dated this 22nd day of August, 2010.

 

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