1                    CITY OF JACKSONVILLE

 

       2                    LAND USE AND ZONING

 

       3                         COMMITTEE

 

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       6             Proceedings held on Tuesday, October 20,

 

       7   2009, commencing at 5:05 p.m., City Hall, Council

 

       8   Chambers, 1st Floor, Jacksonville, Florida, before

 

       9   Diane M. Tropia, a Notary Public in and for the State

 

      10   of Florida at Large.

 

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      12   PRESENT:

 

      13        RAY HOLT, Chair.

                WARREN JONES, Vice Chair.

      14        REGINALD BROWN, Committee Member.

                DANIEL DAVIS, Committee Member.

      15        JOHNNY GAFFNEY, Committee Member.

                STEPHEN JOOST, Committee Member.

      16        DON REDMAN, Committee Member.

 

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           ALSO PRESENT:

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                SEAN KELLY, Chief, Current Planning.

      19        KEN AVERY, Planning and Development Dept.

                STEPHEN SMITH, Planning and Development Dept.

      20        SHANNON ELLER, Office of General Counsel.

                MERRIANE LAHMEUR, Legislative Assistant.

      21        JESSICA STEPHENS, Legislative Assistant.

 

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           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1                   P R O C E E D I N G S

 

       2   October 20, 2009                        5:05 p.m.

 

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       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Welcome to the

 

       5        Land Use and Zoning Meeting, October 20th.

 

       6             We're about ready to go.  We're missing

 

       7        Mr. Crofts tonight.  Let's go around the horn

 

       8        and introduce ourselves starting with Mr. Kelly.

 

       9             MR. KELLY:  Sean Kelly, Planning and

 

      10        Development.

 

      11             MR. AVERY:  Ken Avery, Planning and

 

      12        Development.

 

      13             MR. SMITH:  Good afternoon.

 

      14             Stephen Smith, Planning and Development.

 

      15             MS. ELLER:  Shannon Eller, Office of

 

      16        General Counsel.

 

      17             MR. DAVIS:  Daniel Davis, City of

 

      18        Jacksonville.

 

      19             MR. BROWN:  Reginald Brown, District 10.

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Ray Holt, concerned citizen.

 

      21             MR. JONES:  Warren Jones, District 9.

 

      22             MR. JOOST:  Stephen Joost, at-large.

 

      23             MR. REDMAN:  Don Redman, District 4.

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Now that we've

 

      25        had our bit of humor for the evening, we have a

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        very light agenda tonight.

 

       2             MR. JONES:  Move it.

 

       3             THE CHAIRMAN:  Starting on page 2, items 1

 

       4        and 2 are deferred.

 

       5             Item 3, 2009-91.  We'll open the public

 

       6        hearing.

 

       7             Seeing no speakers, we'll continue that

 

       8        public hearing and take no further action.

 

       9             Item 4, 2009-350.  We'll open the public

 

      10        hearing.

 

      11             Seeing no speakers, we'll continue the

 

      12        public hearing, take no further action.

 

      13             Item 5 is deferred.

 

      14             Item 6, we'll open the public hearing.

 

      15             No speakers.  We'll continue it and take no

 

      16        further action.

 

      17             Item 7, 2009-444, is deferred.

 

      18             2009-526, there's a sub.

 

      19             MR. DAVIS:  Move the sub.

 

      20             MR. JOOST:  Second.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

      22        on the sub.

 

      23             All in favor of the sub -- do we put that

 

      24        on the ballot?

 

      25             MR. DAVIS:  No.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             THE CHAIRMAN:  All in favor of the sub

 

       2        signify by saying aye.

 

       3             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Aye.

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing --

 

       5             MR. DAVIS:  Move to rerefer the sub to LUZ.

 

       6             MR. JOOST:  Second.

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and a second

 

       8        to rerefer the sub.

 

       9             Please open the ballot.

 

      10             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      11             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      12             MR. JONES:  (Votes yea.)

 

      13             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      14             MR. DAVIS:  (Votes yea.)

 

      15             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

      16             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      17             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  Close the ballot and record

 

      19        the vote.

 

      20             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nays.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      22        rereferred 2009-526 as substituted.

 

      23             Number 9 is deferred.  10 is deferred.

 

      24             Number 11, 2009-548.  We'll open the public

 

      25        hearing.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             Seeing no speakers, we'll continue it and

 

       2        take no further action.

 

       3             Number 12 is deferred, as well as 13, all

 

       4        of page 6.  Number 18, 2009-660, is deferred.

 

       5             Number 19, 2009-663.  There's a sub.

 

       6             MR. JONES:  Move the sub.

 

       7             MR. JOOST:  Second.

 

       8             THE CHAIRMAN:  We have a motion and second

 

       9        on the sub.

 

      10             All in favor of the substitute signify by

 

      11        saying aye.

 

      12             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Aye.

 

      13             THE CHAIRMAN:  Any opposed?

 

      14             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  (No response.)

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  Seeing none, the sub passes.

 

      16             MR. JONES:  Rerefer the sub to LUZ.

 

      17             MR. JOOST:  Second.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and second

 

      19        to rerefer as substituted.

 

      20             Please open the ballot.

 

      21             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      22             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      23             MR. JONES:  (Votes yea.)

 

      24             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      25             MR. DAVIS:  (Votes yea.)

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

       2             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       3             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

       4             THE CHAIRMAN:  Close the ballot and record

 

       5        the vote.

 

       6             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nays.

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

       8        rereferred to LUZ as substituted.

 

       9             Number 20, 2009-664.  There is a sub.

 

      10             MR. JONES:  Move the sub.

 

      11             MR. JOOST:  Second.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  I have a motion and second

 

      13        on the sub.

 

      14             All in favor of the sub, please signify by

 

      15        saying aye.

 

      16             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Aye.

 

      17             THE CHAIRMAN:  You have passed the sub.

 

      18             MR. DAVIS:  Move to rerefer to LUZ.

 

      19             THE CHAIRMAN:  I need a --

 

      20             MR. JOOST:  As substituted.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion and second to rerefer

 

      22        as substituted.

 

      23             Please open the ballot.

 

      24             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      25             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             MR. JONES:  (Votes yea.)

 

       2             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       3             MR. DAVIS:  (Votes yea.)

 

       4             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

       5             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       6             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN:  Close the ballot and record

 

       8        the vote.

 

       9             MS. LAHMEUR:  Six yeas, zero nays.

 

      10             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      11        rereferred as substituted.

 

      12             Number 21 is deferred, 22.

 

      13             Number 23, 2009-729.

 

      14             (Dr. Gaffney enters the proceedings.)

 

      15             THE CHAIRMAN:  We'll open the public

 

      16        hearing.

 

      17             Mr. Herzberg.

 

      18             (Mr. Herzberg approaches the podium.)

 

      19             THE CHAIRMAN:  Good evening, sir.

 

      20             MR. HERZBERG:  Good evening.

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Are you here for questions?

 

      22             MR. HERZBERG:  Yes, sir.

 

      23             I have a recommendation of approval, and

 

      24        the applicant supports all of the conditions.

 

      25             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             MR. HERZBERG:  Thank you.

 

       2             THE CHAIRMAN:  Any questions for

 

       3        Mr. Herzberg or anyone need to declare ex-parte

 

       4        or something like that?

 

       5             MR. JONES:  Yes.

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Sorry.  My queue is not --

 

       7        there we go.

 

       8             Mr. Redman.

 

       9             MR. REDMAN:  Yes.  I need to declare

 

      10        ex-parte.  I talked with Mr. Herzberg before the

 

      11        meeting.

 

      12             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  And Mr. Jones.

 

      13             MR. JONES:  Thank you.

 

      14             Through the Chair to Mr. Herzberg, where --

 

      15        exactly where on Philips are we talking about?

 

      16             MR. HERZBERG:  Through the Chair, sir, this

 

      17        property is located immediately at the terminus

 

      18        of Bowden Road into Philips Highway.  There's an

 

      19        existing establishment right there right now,

 

      20        red brick building.

 

      21             MR. JONES:  Okay.

 

      22             MR. HERZBERG:  The sign has been there for

 

      23        over 20 years and, unfortunately, it had fallen

 

      24        down.  They're trying to replace it is all it

 

      25        is.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             MR. JONES:  All right.  Thank you.

 

       2             MR. HERZBERG:  Thank you.

 

       3             THE CHAIRMAN:  All right.  Seeing no

 

       4        further speakers, we will close the public

 

       5        hearing.

 

       6             There's an amendment.

 

       7             MR. DAVIS:  Move the amendment.

 

       8             MS. BROWN:  Second.

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion and second on the

 

      10        amendment.

 

      11             All in favor of the amendment signify by

 

      12        saying aye.

 

      13             COMMITTEE MEMBERS:  Aye.

 

      14             THE CHAIRMAN:  The amendment passes.

 

      15             I need a motion on the bill.

 

      16             MR. JONES:  Move the bill as amended.

 

      17             MR. JOOST:  Second.

 

      18             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion and second on the

 

      19        bill as amended.

 

      20             Please open the ballot.

 

      21             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      22             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      23             MR. JONES:  (Votes yea.)

 

      24             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      25             MR. DAVIS:  (Votes yea.)

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             DR. GAFFNEY:  (Votes yea.)

 

       2             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

       3             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

       4             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

       5             THE CHAIRMAN:  Record the vote.

 

       6             MS. LAHMEUR:  Seven yeas, zero nays.

 

       7             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

       8        approved number 23, 2009-729, as amended.

 

       9             Number 24, 2009-750, is deferred.  2009-751

 

      10        is read second.

 

      11             Jump down there in the middle of our

 

      12        deferrals.  2009-752, -753, and -754 are all

 

      13        deferred.

 

      14             2009-765.  Open the public hearing.

 

      15             Seeing no speakers, we'll continue it and

 

      16        take no further action.

 

      17             -766.  We'll open the public hearing.

 

      18             Mr. Atwill.

 

      19             (Mr. Atwill approaches the podium.)

 

      20             THE CHAIRMAN:  Good evening, sir.

 

      21             MR. ATWILL:  Good evening.

 

      22             Thank you very much.

 

      23             Fred Atwill, Jr., 9001 Forest Acres Lane.

 

      24             I'm here in support of the bill and

 

      25        appreciate your support and will entertain any

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1        questions that you may have regarding this

 

       2        development agreement proposal.

 

       3             THE CHAIRMAN:  Thank you, sir.

 

       4             I don't see anyone on my queue to ask you a

 

       5        question, so we will close the public hearing.

 

       6             I need a motion on the bill.

 

       7             DR. GAFFNEY:  Move the bill.

 

       8             MR. JONES:  Second.

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion and second on the

 

      10        bill.

 

      11             Please open the ballot.

 

      12             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      13             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      14             MR. JONES:  (Votes yea.)

 

      15             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      16             MR. DAVIS:  (Votes yea.)

 

      17             DR. GAFFNEY:  (Votes yea.)

 

      18             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

      19             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      20             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Close the ballot and record

 

      22        the vote.

 

      23             MS. LAHMEUR:  Seven yeas, zero nays.

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      25        approved -766.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             Oh, goodness.  I didn't open them at the

 

       2        same time.

 

       3             2009-767.  We'll open the public hearing.

 

       4             Seeing no speakers, we will close the

 

       5        public hearing.

 

       6             I need a motion on bill.

 

       7             MR. JONES:  Move the bill.

 

       8             DR. GAFFNEY:  Move the bill.

 

       9             THE CHAIRMAN:  Motion and second on

 

      10        2009-767.

 

      11             Please open the ballot.

 

      12             (Committee ballot opened.)

 

      13             MR. HOLT:  (Votes yea.)

 

      14             MR. JONES:  (Votes yea.)

 

      15             MR. BROWN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      16             MR. DAVIS:  (Votes yea.)

 

      17             DR. GAFFNEY:  (Votes yea.)

 

      18             MR. JOOST:  (Votes yea.)

 

      19             MR. REDMAN:  (Votes yea.)

 

      20             (Committee ballot closed.)

 

      21             THE CHAIRMAN:  Close the ballot and record

 

      22        the vote.

 

      23             MS. LAHMEUR:  Seven yeas, zero nays.

 

      24             THE CHAIRMAN:  By your action, you have

 

      25        approved 2009-767.

 

 

 

 

           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1             Items 32, 33, 34, 35 are all read second.

 

       2        All of page 11 is read second.

 

       3             Item 40 -- am I correct, Ms. Eller, we are

 

       4        not going to sub this?

 

       5             MS. ELLER:  Correct.

 

       6             THE CHAIRMAN:  Okay.  So all of page 12 is

 

       7        second rereferred.  And items 45, 46, on

 

       8        page 13, second and rerefer.

 

       9             Unless I'm missing something, we are done,

 

      10        folks.

 

      11             We're adjourned.

 

      12             (The above proceedings were adjourned at

 

      13        5:12 p.m.)

 

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           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203


 

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       1                  C E R T I F I C A T E

 

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       3   STATE OF FLORIDA:

 

       4   COUNTY OF DUVAL :

 

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       6             I, Diane M. Tropia, certify that I was

 

       7   authorized to and did stenographically report the

 

       8   foregoing proceedings and that the transcript is a

 

       9   true and complete record of my stenographic notes.

 

      10             Dated this 22nd day of October, 2009.

 

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           Diane M. Tropia, P.O. Box 2375, Jacksonville, FL 32203