OFFICE OF
THE CITY COUNCIL
117 WEST DUVAL STREET, SUITE 425
4TH FLOOR, CITY HALL
JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 32202
904-630-1377
SPECIAL
LUZ WORKSHOP ON DRAINAGE AND FLOODING ISSUES
MEETING MINUTES
City
Council Chamber, 1st floor, City Hall
November 13, 2017
12:00
p.m.
Location: City Council
Chamber, City Hall – St. James Building; 117 West Duval Street,
In attendance:
Council Members Matt Schellenberg (Chair), Danny Becton, Lori Boyer,
Al Ferraro
Excused: Council Members
Katrina Brown, Doyle Carter and Reggie Gaffney
Also: Council Member Aaron
Bowman; Susan Grandin – Office of General Counsel; Bill Killingsworth, Folks
Huxford, Mike Sands and Kristen Reed – Planning and Development Department; Jessica
Matthews – Legislative Services Division; Jeff Clements – Council Research
Division; Bill Joyce – Public Works Department; John Flowe – Environmental
Quality Division; Dave Miracle – St. Johns River Water Management District
Meeting Convened:
12:00 p.m.
Chairman Schellenberg convened the meeting and the attendees
introduced themselves for the record. Mike Sands of the Planning and
Development Department reported that the department is in the process of
developing an ordinance to make revisions to the City’s current policies and
regulations regarding stormwater management and has looked at the regulations
in other Florida jurisdictions. Tampa’s regulations are very similar to
Jacksonville’s, while Orlando uses a substantially different methodology. In
response to a question from Council Member Boyer about the City’s inspection
and enforcement procedures, Mr. Sands said that lack of adequate enforcement
power is one of Jacksonville’s primary weaknesses with regard to stormwater
regulation. The new ordinance will help to remedy that weakness. Dave Miracle
of the St. Johns River Water Management District said that the WMD has
regulatory authority over surface waters and the wetlands that impact them and
that its enforcement action is generally reactive to citizen complaints,
although some is initiated by the district’s field personnel in the course of
their regular duties. The typical enforcement action is to require removal of
illegally placed material in wetlands or waterways and perhaps the imposition
of a fine. Alternatively the district could retroactively require application
for a permit for the action taken.
The committee and staff discussed problems posed by development of
isolated infill lots in previously developed areas and how to ensure that
drainage from the infill development does not adversely impact the adjoining
properties. In response to a question Mr. Miracle stated that single
residential lots are exempt from WMD regulation unless those lots impact
regulated wetlands. Activities by the city, state and federal governments, U.S.
military, FDOT, JEA, etc. are all subject to WMD regulation. Council Member
Boyer requested that the issue of raised lots/infill development be placed on a
list of topics for additional future discussion. Council Member Ferraro felt
that the current 5-year performance bond requirement on new development is
insufficient to deal with potential long-term issues. Kristen Reed of the
Planning Department said that the City does not currently require “maintenance
of drainage” plans, but that is being considered for the new revised ordinance
discussed earlier. In response to a question from Council Member Ferraro, Ms.
Reed explained that state law requires the Coastal and Conservation Elements of
local government comprehensive plans to enact goals and policies that address
sea level rise. In response to a question from Council Member Reggie Brown, Ms.
Reed said that the capital improvement needs identified in the Comprehensive
Plan are funded annual through the adoption of the Capital Improvement Plan and
the annual budget. Regarding dredging of navigable waters, Ms. Reed said the
working group involved in the ordinance re-write has not yet dealt with that
issue but will do so. Council Member Brown expressed concern with the City’s
apparent lack of enforcement power and said that the burden of obtaining some
kind of remedial action falls on the adjacent affected property owners who have
to sue for relief.
Regarding inspections Mr. Sands said that the City has inspection
authority over residential subdivisions but not over commercial properties
unless the commercial project generates an identifiable issue. Developers can
hire a private inspector to do interim inspections but the City must do the
final inspection when a subdivision is completed in order to issue the
certificate of occupancy and release the performance bond. Ms. Boyer requested
that the issue of inspections be added to the list of items for future
discussion.
In response to a question from Council Member Becton, Mr. Sands said
that a certificate of occupancy can be issued when the horizontal construction
of infrastructure is complete but before any vertical building is done.
Subsequent inspections when buildings are built is problematic and needs to be
improved. Mr. Miracle said that pre-1990 developments are “grandfathered in”
and the WMD has no regulatory authority over the operation of those systems, if
they exist. There are no regulations on unpermitted facilities. In response to
a question Mr. Miracle said that there is no renewal requirement for WMD
permits. They are inspected and accepted when completed and maintenance is
required thereafter, but there is no real inspection process thereafter until a
problem arises. In response to a question from Ms. Boyer about impervious
surface calculations and standards, Mr. Sands said that the City compares
actual pre- and post-construction drawings to determine the amount of
impervious surface being created. Mr. Miracle said that the WMD uses published
runoff coefficient tables based on the type of development being proposed. Ms.
Boyer asked that the engineering design coefficients for runoff be put on the
list of items for future consideration. She is concerned that the trend toward
allowing development of smaller lots in new subdivisions has the potential to
increase the percentage of impervious surface in developments (the impervious
percentage of a house, driveway and patio on a 50 foot lot is much higher than
on a 100 foot lot), and therefore has the potential to increase the amount of
total runoff. She is very concerned that
many properly permitted and properly constructed projects don’t produce the
expected result when completed; something is going wrong somewhere in the
process. Council Member Ferraro echoed that concern and felt that the City must
have some responsibility to protect the interests of citizens when a stormwater
facility design goes wrong and negatively impacts neighboring property owners.
The group discussed issues involved with reliance on plans produced by
design professionals and the liability for remediation when plans produced by
those professionals don’t operate as planned after construction. Council Member
Boyer questioned the effectiveness of the WMD allowing mitigation for wetlands
impacts in areas distant from the location of a project. Mr. Miracle said that
the district allows mitigation anywhere within the basin of the impacted water
body. Ms. Boyer asked that the potential for local regulations to add water
quality protections to the WMD’s regulations be added to the tickler list of
items for further consideration. Ms. Boyer also asked that further
consideration be given to potential ways of requiring contractors to mitigate
for failures to keep silt out of regulated waters and wetlands. The current
practice of levying fines for silt fence failures does not get the illegal
material out of the impacted water body. Mr. Miracle said that the WMD has the
power to require removal of illegally placed material, but it is often
difficult to definitively prove the origin of the material and assign liability
to a particular project.
In response to a question from Council Member Brown about regulation
of retention ponds, Mr. Sands reported that most of the several thousand ponds
in the City are privately owned and maintenance is the responsibility of the
owner. The City does not inspect private stormwater facilities after they are
constructed. A big problem is that developers turn over stormwater ponds to
homeowner associations when a new subdivision is constructed, but sometimes
those associations become defunct and no one takes responsibility for
maintenance. Plat regulations previously made the property owners directly
abutting the retention pond responsible for its maintenance in the absence of a
homeowner association. The plat regulations have since been changed to make the
pond the responsibility of all of the property owners in the subdivision if the
HOA defaults. Ms. Boyer asked that post-construction maintenance of ponds be
added to the future discussion list, including the potential for requiring that
private owners provide annual evidence to the City that the pond has been
inspected and is functional. She believes that many property owners do not
realize that swales in their yards are part of an overall neighborhood drainage
system, and therefore fill them in without recognizing the problems that will
result. In response to a question from Council Member Ferraro about the
importance of pond aeration, Mr. Sands said that aerators are useful for aesthetic
purposes but don’t really affect water quality. Mr. Miracle said that if
aeration is desired, it needs to be professionally designed and substantial
enough to meet the application, not just a small bubbler.
Ms. Boyer raised the issue of rising sea level and the attendant
increase in the frequency of very high tides and asked if the City is
considering remedial actions such as installing backflow preventers and pumps,
raising outfall levels, and changing design standards. Public Works Department
Operations Director Bill Joyce agreed that standards need to be revised to
reflect the new reality of higher water levels. Ms. Boyer urged that that the
changes be made sooner rather than later to avoid permitting new developments
based on standards that are sure to fail in the coming years.
In response to a question from Council Member Boyer about the policy
on permitting development that drains to a private marsh and ultimately to a
water body, Mr. Sands said that current regulations require that an easement be in place to guarantee the
right to convey water from a development to a receiving water body. Mr. Sands
also reported that the City allows filling for development in floodways and
flood plains if sufficient compensation is made elsewhere. Ms. Boyer asked that
floodway/flood plain development regulation be added to the list for future
discussion. She also expressed concern that the Comprehensive Plan level of
service standards for drainage allow too much flooding in LOS B and C without
tripping a violation.
Public comment
Tom Larson said that the City needs to be making investments with a
50-100 year time frame in mind and should immediately begin planning for sea
level rise and require building elevations to be safe from rising water levels.
He urged the City to produce a map of every part of the county that flooded
during Hurricane Irma so that the full extent of the potential danger can be
easily seen and assessed.
Lad Hawkins said that sea level rise is clearly underway and the City
is still allowing development to happen under outdated standards. Everyone will
suffer when waterfront development is flooded because it will erode the city’s
tax base and increase the revenue generation burden on all the other
properties. The 2-foot sea level rise that the City is beginning to plan for is
only a start – the problem is only going to worsen over time. Many costs will
be imposed from many different aspects.
Greg Matovina, a long-time Jacksonville developer, said that has not
received a single call about flooding from any of the subdivisions he’s built
over the years. Most drainage complaints are generated from developments built
before the City commissioned a major drainage study and imposed modern
development standards in 1992. From is perspective the City is rigorous about
enforcing floodway/flood plain fill and mitigation requirements. He recommended
that plan reviews require another sheet or scaled site plan showing properties
adjacent to new developments so that planners can assess potential drainage
effects on adjacent properties.
G. Very Testy asked how much the Planning Department’s current
drainage regulation rewrite effort is costing and whether the study was contracted
out or done in-house. Council Member Schellenberg asked Mr. Testy to e-mail the
request to him and he will see that his questions are answered.
Meeting adjourned: 2:28
p.m.
Minutes: Jeff Clements, Council Research Division
11.16.17
Posted 10:00 a.m.
Tapes: Special LUZ workshop
meeting – LSD
11.13.17