OFFICE OF
THE CITY COUNCIL
RESEARCH
DIVISION
117 WEST DUVAL STREET, SUITE 425
4TH FLOOR, CITY HALL
JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA 32202
904-630-1377
JOINT
LUZ AND TEU SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON 2017-863
MEETING
MINUTES
City
Council Chamber, 1st floor, City Hall
September
11, 2018
9:30
a.m.
Location: City Council
Chamber, City Hall – St. James Building, 117 West Duval Street
In attendance: Council
Members Matt Schellenberg (Chair), Danny Becton,
Anna Lopez Brosche, Al Ferraro, John Crescimbeni, Terrance Freeman, Jim
Love, Randy White, Reginald Gaffney (arr. 9:50)
Excused: Council Member Scott
Wilson
Also: Council President Aaron Bowman, Council
Member Lori Boyer (arr. 10:12); Jason Teal and Shannon Eller – Office of General
Counsel; Heather Reber – Council Auditor’s Office; Staci Lopez – Legislative
Services Division; Jeff Clements – Council Research Division; Leeann Krieg –
Mayor’s Office
Meeting Convened:
9:30 a.m.
Council Member Matt Schellenberg called the meeting to order and the attendees introduced themselves for the
record. In response to a question from Council Member Crescimbeni, Council
President Bowman indicated that he intended for this bill to be taken up a the
council meeting tonight with the committees’ recommendation.
Heather Duncan of AT&T introduced Tracy Hatch (legal counsel) and
Kevin Harrison (area manager for real estate and construction).
In response to a question from Council Member Crescimbeni, attorney Jason
Teal of the General Counsel’s Office said that no provider has yet applied to
make small cell wireless installations in Winter Park under their new
regulatory ordinance. The Winter Park representative indicated that AT&T
has indicated some interest in operating in Winter Park within the aesthetic
restrictions, but has not yet made any application. Winter Park also claims an exemption from the
state law requirements because the city owns the electric utility there, and municipally-owned
electric utilities are exempt under state law from the requirement that small
cell wireless infrastructure must be allowed in rights-of-ways.
In response to a question from Council Member Crescimbeni, Kevin
Harrison of AT&T described the differences in equipment for two different
power levels of small cell wireless installations (pico and micro), depending
on the needs of the particular area, which entail different equipment cabinet
sizes. Different radio sizes for different coverage areas require different
sizes of equipment. He said the macro service (tall towers) will continue to
exist and provide service to large areas after small cell wireless service is
installed to continue carrying much of the traffic load.
Adam Oliver of Verizon Wireless said that his company has
installations in Pinellas County and the City of Orlando where the company’s
permits allow up to 28 cubic feet of equipment cabinets pursuant to state law.
He did not provide copies of photos requested orally by Mr. Crescimbeni at the
last meeting but offered to do so pursuant to a written request.
Public comment:
Tracy Hatch of AT&T said that a variance option is completely
discretionary on the part of the permitting agency and does not answer the
needs of the company to propagate its network as it needs to. He said that the
proposed size limits don’t work technically with their equipment, which will
need to be reconfigured from what it installs everywhere else in the state. The
state statute specifically allows 28 cubic feet so there should be no question
that it is permissible and can’t be altered by local government using a home
rule argument.
Mr. Crescimbeni said that previous testimony by Jason Teal
contradicted Mr. Hatch’s interpretation of the state statute and asked for him
to comment when the Public Comment period is complete.
Alicia Grant representing Scenic Jacksonville and City Beautiful Jax
said that she has talked to experts in this field and learned that other
companies have developed smaller technology that fits the proposed smaller size
limits. She objected to large capacity cabinets mounted on poles and felt that
if one carrier can implement the smaller size equipment, the others should be
able to do so as well. She said that the Federal Communication Commission
requires that any new pole location must receive the approval of the 5 Indian
nations in order to protect Indian burial grounds. She urged the City to obtain
expert advice on this issue.
Lad Hawkins said that deployment of new technology has always been a
planning issue and urged the City not to rush into permitting technology that
would have a blighting impact on the City. He serves on the Greater
Arlington/Beaches CPAC and reported that the CPAC had a lengthy discussion on
this issue at its meeting this week and many citizens expressed concern about
the potential negative appearance of pole-mounted equipment.
Tracey Arpen said that the City has one chance to get this issue right
and urged the City to be a leader and do its best to protect the public
interest rather than simply agree to whatever the rest of Florida allows the
wireless providers to have. Jacksonville has a history of being aggressive and
a leader in the area of beautification via offsite sign regulation and cellphone
tower camouflaging, and he hoped the same attitude would apply to the
regulation of these facilities. He felt that what was a very good ordinance as
the beginning of the process has been watered down throughout the process and
is now no better than mediocre.
Jason Teal said that state law requires the City to allow small cell
wireless equipment in its right-of-way, but does not mandate that it has to be
allowed on a pole. He contends the City has the right to impose reasonable
aesthetic standards and could require that some of the 28 cubic feet of space
referenced by the state be located on the ground or underground, and not on the
pole. In response to a question from Mr. Crescimbeni, Mr. Teal indicated that
he was unaware of the Indian nations point being raised by Ms. Grant and would
investigate it before tonight’s Council meeting.
Paul Harden representing Unity Mobility said that whatever the cubic
feet limitation, the proposed 12-inch maximum depth profile for pole mounted
equipment is too small for his company’s equipment and requested that it be
amended to 20 inches.
Council President Bowman said that the time has come for a decision by
the committees and Council since the standards were originally expected to be
completed last December. Council Member Love agreed with allowing the 20-inch
depth requested by Mr. Harden and urged the committees to decide on a standard
and pass the bill.
Motion (Love): TEU
Committee recommends amendment of the bill to change the maximum depth
dimension to 20 inches from 12 inches on existing poles and 15 inches on new
poles
Attorney Shannon Eller of the General Counsel’s Office described the
amendments to the substitute previously approved by the TEU and LUZ Committees.
Council Member Crescimbeni said he believed TEU had previously
recommended a limit of 7 cubic feet of cabinet space mounted on a pole; Ms. Eller
said the amendment was drafted at 6.7 cubic feet but TEU can change it now if
it desires. The committee recommended 7 cubic feet.
Motion (Crescimbeni): TEU
Committee recommends amendment of the bill as previously amended by the TEU and
LUZ Committees and including the request from Mr. Harden to increase the
maximum depth of a pole-mounted cabinet to 20 inches, to incorporate the
following:
1. Removes imprisonment option from enforcement remedies
2. Changes the time limit from 90 days to 30 days for the Director to
approve or deny an original application after an applicant has rejected an
alternative pole location proposed by the City
3. On p. 60, line 17 strike “and” after criterion (ix) in the list of
criteria to be considered regarding proposed waivers of requirements or design
standards
4. On p. 60, at the end of line 20 strike a period (.) and insert “;
and”
5. Adds an additional criterion to the list of factors to be
considered when evaluating waiver requests: “(xi) Ensuring that all citizens of
Jacksonville and Duval County have abundant access to broadband capability.”
6. Reduces size limit on pole-mounted equipment from 10 cu. ft. to 7.0
cu. ft.
7. Changes from 60 days to 30 days the time in which the City would
have to provide a good faith estimate for any make-ready work necessary to
enable a pole to support a requested co-location
8. Replace “line” with “and/or distribution lines” regarding
collocation on existing poles in City Right-of-Way, Eligible poles
9. Regarding replacement poles, adds “for a streetlight, with an
overhead power feed, the height of the streetlight pole may be increased up to
five (5) feet if reasonably necessary to accommodate the top-mounted antenna
and any related equipment”;
10. Regarding hollow replacement poles, adds “this requirement for
concrete poles applies to concrete streetlight poles and not to concrete
transmission and distribution line poles if such requirement is not reasonably
practical.”
11. In Sec. 711.432 (Objective Design Standards) increases the maximum
depth of pole-mounted equipment to 20 inches.
The Crescimbeni motion was approved
6-0
Motion: TEU recommends
approval of 2017-863 as amended – approved
6-0
Motion (Becton): LUZ
Committee recommends amendment of the bill as previously amended by the TEU and
LUZ Committees and including the request from Mr. Harden to increase the
maximum depth of a pole-mounted cabinet to 20 inches, to incorporate the
following:
1. Removes imprisonment option from enforcement remedies
2. Changes the time limit from 90 days to 30 days for the Director to
approve or deny an original application after an applicant has rejected an
alternative pole location proposed by the City
3. On p. 60, line 17 strike “and” after criterion (ix) in the list of
criteria to be considered regarding proposed waivers of requirements or design
standards
4. On p. 60, at the end of line 20 strike a period (.) and insert “;
and”
5. Adds an additional criterion to the list of factors to be
considered when evaluating waiver requests: “(xi) Ensuring that all citizens of
Jacksonville and Duval County have abundant access to broadband capability.”
6. Reduces size limit on pole-mounted equipment from 10 cu. ft. to 7.0
cu. ft.
7. Changes from 60 days to 30 days the time in which the City would
have to provide a good faith estimate for any make-ready work necessary to
enable a pole to support a requested co-location
8. Replace “line” with “and/or distribution lines” regarding
collocation on existing poles in City Right-of-Way, Eligible poles
9. Regarding replacement poles, adds “for a streetlight, with an
overhead power feed, the height of the streetlight pole may be increased up to
five (5) feet if reasonably necessary to accommodate the top-mounted antenna
and any related equipment”;
10. Regarding hollow replacement poles, adds “this requirement for
concrete poles applies to concrete streetlight poles and not to concrete
transmission and distribution line poles if such requirement is not reasonably
practical.”
11. In Sec. 711.432 (Objective Design Standards) increases the maximum
depth of pole-mounted equipment to 20 inches.
Chairman Schellenberg said that he would be voting against the bill
because it caters to the needs of one particular service provider who lobbied
the Council for changes. Council Members Boyer and Crescimbeni disputed the
contention that the bill is being modified for a particular provider; Ms. Boyer
noted that several of the providers could incorporate their equipment within
the 6.7 (now 7) cubic feet installation, although it may not be everything they
would prefer.
Kevin Hatch said that AT&T could operate within the 7 cubic foot
limitation, but it may require more antenna installations to cover the same
area. Council Member Crescimbeni read a series of dimensions from a document he
received from AT&T and questioned Mr. Hatch about whether they represent an
existing installation in Florida; Mr. Hatch was unfamiliar with the city being
referenced. Mr. Crescimbeni said that the document and a hand-written note were
confusing and the numbers don’t appear to add up. Mr. Hatch said that AT&T
would have to work with its equipment providers to produce a shroud that fits
the City’s proposed size requirements.
Council Member Boyer pointed out that state rights-of-way are not
regulated under the state law in question and the state can approve
installations of larger size than the committees are contemplating at its
discretion. The City’s control will be over local roads that typically are in
neighborhoods; Jacksonville has a large number of state roads, including most
major thoroughfares.
The Becton amendment was approved
5-1 (Schellenberg opposed)
Motion (Becton): LUZ recommends approval of 2017-863 as amended
by LUZ –
Motion (Gaffney): amend
the bill to provide for a 10 cubic foot size limitation – dies for lack of a second.
The Becton motion was approved
5-1 (Schellenberg opposed).
Council President Bowman stated that his intention was to have the
bill acted on by the City Council tonight.
Meeting adjourned: 10:40
a.m.
Minutes: Jeff Clements, Council Research Division
904-630-1405
jeffc@coj.net
9.12.18 Posted 6:00 p.m.
Tape: Joint LUZ and TEU Special
Committee Meeting – LSD
9.11.18